Posted on 05/04/2010 6:32:39 AM PDT by Retired Intelligence Officer
Arnold Schwarzeneggar wishes that but he can't because he says the Constitution will not allow a foreign born person to become President unless the US Constitution is changed or amended to allow it to happen. As we all know no foreign born citizens, native born citizens or naturalized citizens can run for president. Only a Natural Born Citizen can be President. Amending the constitution so a foreign born citizen could run for president would seriously put this nation at risk from a person who was born with allegiances to another country. It would be a national security risk. John Jay wrote this in a letter to George Washington when the Constitution was being framed for adoption warning Washington of the ramifications of a foreigner running the country:
"Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and reasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen."
The result of that letter prompted the Grandfather Clause in Article 2 Section 1 which is this:
"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
It has been that way and it should remain that way. It is a safeguard that we do not have anything but a Natural Born Citizen with American Citizen parents (plural) to be President with allegiance to the United States only. All Presidents to this day except at the framing of the constitution have had both parents which were American Citizens or Naturalized American Citizens. Am I right about this last sentence?
A legend in his own mind. Maybe he could be president in some SNL skit. Not that I would wish it on the USA, but I would rather see John McCain or Nit(wit) Romey as president before I would have this RINO traitor as our dear mis-leader.
Sorry , but the Supreme court has already ruled that there is a clear distiction between Native born and Natural born. In the case of Wong KIm Ark , Ark was delared a Native born Naturalized citizen because he was born on American soil to legal immigrants who were not yet U.S. citizens. Full and complete allegiance( both parents U.S. citizens,NATURAL BORN) at time of birth is required to be President. NO, obama IS NOT the legal president of the U.S.. Arnold is a Naturalized citizen just like obama, if obama is the “president” then Arnold can be the “president”
“But ANYONE who runs for president MUST BE native born.
IN ADDITION, he must be NATURAL Born.
So you cannot say no native born citizen can run, in fact it is a requirement. But it, by itself, is not sufficient”
There’s a lot of confusion here. It hasn’t been established, so far as I know, that citizens born of parent citizens outside U.S. territory aren’t natural born citizens. So the part about presidents needing to be native born is suspect. Also, by saying that a president must be natural born in addition to being native born, you assume native born citizens aren’t automatically natural born citizens, which I think is false.
Obama, is doing the same think to the whole country that Arnold Schwarzeneggar has done to California..
Obama is not an American citizen..he came in through the back door..with his communist handlers..
However, they sure did slam the EPA.
PA Soldier: I’m afraid we lost them, sir.
Russ Cargill: Damn it! Well, then you find ‘em, and you get ‘em back in the dome! And to make sure nobody else gets out, I want roving death squads around the perimeter 24-7! I want 10,000 tough guys, and I want 10,000 soft guys to make the tough guys look tougher! And here’s how I want them arranged: tough, soft, tough, tough, soft, tough, soft, soft, tough, tough, soft, soft, tough, soft, tough, soft!
EPA Soldier: Sir, I’m afraid you’ve gone mad with power.
Russ Cargill: Of course I have! Have you ever tried going mad without power? It’s boring, no one listens to you!
Via the 14th amendment, if a pregnant 16 year old girl crosses over from Mexico and gives birth, that child is a native born citizen.
But could never be considered a “natural born” citizen.
Waste of his time and $$$ if he could run...wouldn’t get out of a primary.
No, Chester A Arthur's father was a British citizen at the time of his birth (in fact there was a big scandal about whether Arthur was born in Canada or the U.S.)
There was another President (whose name is slipping my mind right now) whose mother was born in Ireland, if I remember correctly.
“Sorry , but the Supreme court has already ruled that there is a clear distiction between Native born and Natural born”
Sorry, but you’re wrong. Read the decision again, carefully. They never said native born citizens aren’t also natural born citizens. They in fact are, being citizens from birth, which is what “natural born citizen” means.
“Ark was delared a Native born Naturalized citizen because he was born on American soil to legal immigrants who were not yet U.S. citizens.”
No, he was not. Even if we assume he’s not a natural born citizen, he was most certainly not naturalized, as he was native born, and born citizens are by definition not naturalized.
“Full and complete allegiance( both parents U.S. citizens,NATURAL BORN) at time of birth is required to be President.”
Says you.
“Arnold is a Naturalized citizen just like obama”
Oh, really? When did Obama go through the naturalization process, then? Oh, wait, he didn’t. He was born that way, which means he wasn’t naturalized.
“But could never be considered a ‘natural born’ citizen.”
Why not?
Because both parents were not American citizens
Maybe he was delivered by C-Section. *rimshot*
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!
I like all slams on power, and The Simpsons has a tradition of attacking mindless bureaucracy of all kinds. But pay closer attention. It’s not the EPA they’re mocking. It’s the EPA as run by a Bush-y sort of ex-industrialist CEO guy. I don’t remember the exact dialogue, but they make it pretty clear that this is the New EPA.
Besides, truckloads of episodes testify to the show’s eviro-credentials (see: the crazy Texas billionaire vs. various of Lisa’s dreamy do-gooder love interests). There’s really no chance they’d spend all that time contradicting themselves with the thing that millions more people are sure to see than the average episode.
But also they certainly were mocking Ted Kennedy with the Mayor of Springfield.
The Constitution doesn’t define natural born citizen.
Arnold doesn’t qualify, not just because of his birth but because of his policies. It would require both a Constitutional amendment AND gross stupidity by voters.
However, the idea that Arnold feels any great loyalty to Austria and is a security risk because of that is silly.
NO F’N WAY !!!!
“Because both parents were not American citizens”
Who says they have to be?
“But also they certainly were mocking Ted Kennedy with the Mayor of Springfield”
Teddy, yes, but also probably all the Kennedys at once. Not saying they don’t go after Democrats, especially back in the day. Just don’t think the movie had any of that going on.
“The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.”
FTS left out the most intriguing part. Indonesia would not have allowed Barry Soetoro to become an Indonesian National if he did not obtain a Certificate of Loss of Nationality from the US first.
Obama incorrectly assumed his US citizenship would be restored when the Soetoro adoption was annulled. Obama is US native born Indonesian National.
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