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Breaking: Militia group (Hutaree) charged with "seditious conspiracy" by FBI
Fox News ^ | Mar 29, 2010 9:25 am | Foxnews (Live broadcast)

Posted on 03/29/2010 7:51:38 AM PDT by BP2


No link yet, only from live broadcast:

In a press release just handed to Fox by the FBI, the six Michigan residents, two from Ohio, one from Indiana are charged with “seditious conspiracy.”

Reportedly, Hutaree is accused of attempted use of weapons of mass destruction. Charges range from August 2008 to today.

The militia group Hutaree are said to have conspired to oppose by force the authority of the US Government.

The members viewed local, state and federal law enforcement as "the brotherhood," also known as their enemy, and have been preparing, the FBI says, to engage them in armed conflict.

According to one plan released by the FBI, the group was to kill a law enforcement officer, then during the funeral precession, hit again with IEDs to kill more LEOs.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; US: Ohio
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To: penelopesire
Something doesn’t smell right. The FBI is saying the group was targeting the police...yet CAIR comes out yesterday saying the group was targeting muslims.

Noticed that, did you? Hmm.

321 posted on 03/29/2010 10:43:22 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: BP2
"Sleeping w/ the Enemy: Obama Hires Muslim Extremist to TSA Senior Policy Advisor"
322 posted on 03/29/2010 10:44:22 AM PDT by Moe Tzadik
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To: manc
They then arrest these guys on B/S charges while muslims in upstate NY have a compound where they shoot auto weapons and no one is allowed in .

I agree with you that we should be going after the Muslim training camps/compounds, but I'm not sure why you're describing the charges here as "B/S charges." If the allegations in the indictment are borne out, these are not B/S charges - Conspiracy to commit a crime is itself a crime. Conspiring to kill police officers is a crime.

Let's not jump to any conclusions in either direction here, folks.

323 posted on 03/29/2010 10:44:38 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Cboldt

Actually, another poster here mentioned that the nutty black group in Miami, Seeds of David, was charged with seditious conspiracy. That would have been a couple of years ago, IIRC.


324 posted on 03/29/2010 10:45:15 AM PDT by livius
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To: FourPeas
Fox had guy sighting Southern Poverty Law Center statistics as part of their reporting on this group.

Well I hope he was "citing" them as opposed to "sighting" them because "sighting" them could be construed as some kind of "seditious conspiracy".

325 posted on 03/29/2010 10:46:17 AM PDT by Theophilus
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To: 9YearLurker
. My guess is the feds have infiltrated almost all such groups, going back before Obama was in office

Certainly. How many infilitrators you suppose they have in the various Muslim groups of Dearbornistan and vicinity?

326 posted on 03/29/2010 10:46:31 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: xzins
As mentioned, no one can point to even one injury or one bit of damaged caused by this group.

They burned a UN Flag in their video.

They also contributed to global warming.

327 posted on 03/29/2010 10:46:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: BP2

Google definition of Sedition: an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority and tending to cause the disruption or overthrow of the government

I checked because I wanted to see if it’s illegal to just “plot” or “Plan” something. It is.


328 posted on 03/29/2010 10:47:20 AM PDT by BobMV
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To: manc

We know that’s wrong. Doesn’t mean we need our own wackos bombing up the streets.


329 posted on 03/29/2010 10:47:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: El Gato

I hope more than a few!


330 posted on 03/29/2010 10:48:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DuncanWaring
I remember trying to buy primers for my dad in 7th or 8th grade, mid-60s and couldn't; too young.

That was back in the early 70s in Michigan. I never had to produce an ID of any kind to buy powder, primers or bullets.

I also bought several black powder pistol kits because I could and thus I owned handguns. Granted, they were muzzle loaders but I still had them. They were really fun to make too.

Also purchased several muzzle loading long guns. No ID required, at least where I lived.

331 posted on 03/29/2010 10:49:51 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I agree and while the charges have been made public thus far they do seem not that serious right now to go ahead and do raids around the country unless they have evidence that there was a serious threat of which they have not.

It seems that this fits in with their attack on the right and take the conversation away from health care.

Palm Sunday and the man just happens to leave the country and the attacks on the right all fit in with changing the subject away from health care and how companies have said they stand to lose a lot of money . However if they were dong threats and panning to kill etc then they should be charges but the timing of this is very very very suspicious indeed.

Remember how Anita Dunn the mass killer lover said they controlled the media message? Well here they are again doing it and the media are either too stupid or want to do what the white house wants.

Either way this is sickening to what is going on in this country right now.


332 posted on 03/29/2010 10:51:19 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc; P-Marlowe

there is no right wing and left wing

there is total government (10) and zero government (0)

better to look at where folks are at on that scale

What number would you give Obama?

What number would you give yourself? I’m probably about a 4.


333 posted on 03/29/2010 10:51:42 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
They burned a UN Flag in their video. They also contributed to global warming.

I feel a Servetus moment coming on. :>)

334 posted on 03/29/2010 10:52:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: El Gato

LOL...guess it was a statement of the obvious. Just putting it out there for the thread record.


335 posted on 03/29/2010 10:53:34 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0329/hutaree-militia-video

CNN says militia group tied to Tea Party

336 posted on 03/29/2010 10:55:56 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: BP2
Proudly posting without reading the whole thread

If an IED is classified as a WMD, then Iraq had WMDs and our invasion of them was totally legitimate and accpetbale to the liberals. After all, they've made that the sticking point ("where are the WMDs?"). Well they've been using them against us since the start.

Orrrrrrr, an IED is NOT a WMD and these militia people (of whatever stripe) can't be charged with it.

My guess would be that they are a closet moslem group just set up to discredit Christians. These plans (if they indeed were making such plans) are not in accordance with the scriptures. They line up perfectly with the koran however.

337 posted on 03/29/2010 10:56:56 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: penelopesire
Think of all of the past arrests when people have attempted to hire a hit man

The key phrase is "attempted to hire." That's an act, not just talk. When you act, then a law kicks in. Before that, it's just speech. If you just spout off about things, it's protected speech. If you start actively planning to commit a crime, and if you join with one or more other people who actively plan to commit a crime, then that's criminal conspiracy.

338 posted on 03/29/2010 10:57:04 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Note to rigid ideologues: Your own point of view in a mirror is quite a limited window on the world.)
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To: jackmercer

good info. So they do have some real charges in this mess, however pipebombs are always a stretch, how many people have blackpowder and PVC pipe in the house. Did you see what kind of explosives they were using?


339 posted on 03/29/2010 10:57:26 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: P-Marlowe

Doh! I forgot the kicker:

(See paragraph e., page 7 of the Indictment.)

The defendant conspirators were attempting to go to Kentucky to attend a militia summit to “facilitate better communication, cooperation and coordination between various militias”... (First Amendment?)

but weather conditions prevented them from going.

Wow. Very impressive prosecutors.


340 posted on 03/29/2010 10:58:50 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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