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Glenn Beck Discusses Lincoln with "Expert"
Glenn Beck Show ^ | 2/15/2009 | Self

Posted on 02/15/2010 3:29:27 PM PST by central_va

Did anyone here see tonight's Glenn Beck TV show segment with the author (Lehrman?) of Lincoln at Peoria?

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
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To: cowboyway; Non-Sequitur

Gotta go with Non-Sequitur. I usually research sources very carefully, but in this case, I’m going to jump to the conclusion that a homosexual revisionist “exploring” Lincoln’s alleged sex life is a very bad, albeit funny, one. :-)

BTW, one thing I find fascinating about the war is that sometimes during the downtime between engagements, Southern soldiers would get together with Northern soldiers for a game of baseball. Sometimes they were just guys, speaking the same vernacular.


261 posted on 02/16/2010 8:07:18 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (No tag line - I travel light.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

They were Americans after all. Like you said, and despite the efforts of some to demonize their perceived enemies, they were sometimes literally brother fighting brother. And there were honorable people on both sides...


262 posted on 02/16/2010 8:42:10 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

can’rt argue with that..and I appreciate your civility

i’m old and i forget easy after two heart surgeries...if I am mean on another thread please remind we we were once polite

thanks..sometimes I have to be reeled in


263 posted on 02/16/2010 11:01:44 PM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

I’ve not found the LDS genealogy records to be accurate in my family’s case. One thing I have found with my mother inlaw’s family is the name was changed. I’m not sure it was on purpose but sometimes, the census taker spelled the name the way he wanted (or thought it was spelled) rather than how the family spelt it. Another obstacle is when an individual is born at about the same time of the census or shortly after. Sometimes they don’t get recorded until the next census....10yrs later and if the family moved...hah! It’s alot of fun and frustration. ;) Then there are county records that may have been destroyed, county lines that were redrawn, etc. My husband has a family line that kept hopping across the TN/VA state line. lol Oh...and one more thing...if you know the names of brothers or sisters...dont’ forget to check out their information. My husband’s grandmother was raised by her grandmother and eventually her aunt because her mother died during childbirth. Most fathers sent small children to live with other family members in those cases. Also, the elderly parents were often times living with their adult children. So, sometimes if an individual can’t be found with his/her own immediate family, check the extended family to see if they moved in. ;) Good luck!


264 posted on 02/17/2010 12:27:46 AM PST by TNdandelion (While Obama plays with his balls, Afghanistan falls.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Lee began releasing his wife’s slaves (his wife inherited them from the Custis estate) in 1861, and he did not take command of the Army of Northern Virginia until June 1, 1862. He released the last of his wife’s slaves in December, 1862.


265 posted on 02/17/2010 3:24:30 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: rockrr
They were Americans after all. Like you said, and despite the efforts of some to demonize their perceived enemies, they were sometimes literally brother fighting brother. And there were honorable people on both sides...

Sorry, but being nicey nicey now has brought us to riunation. The days of nicey nicey are coming to an end I'm afraid.

266 posted on 02/17/2010 3:59:36 AM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: Who is John Galt?

Non_sequitur is really a “copperhead” at heart, he only takes the contrarian side to amuse himself.


267 posted on 02/17/2010 4:05:59 AM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: ought-six
No, he hadn’t. He was not given military command until June 1, 1862. Prior ro that he was an aide to President Davis. Kind of like a Rahm Emmanuel, perhaps. Lee did not “take up arms” until june 1, 1862, when he was given a command. Virginia did not secede until April 17, 1861. So, even Virginia had not been engaged for two years.

According to Douglas Southall Freeman, Lee was offered command of all of Virginia's military forces by Governor Letcher on April 19, 1861 and he accepted. But hey, what does Freeman know, right?

Argue semantics all you want, Lee took up arms against the United States long before he freed the last of the slaves from his father-in-laws estate. Your claim in reply 143 that he freed them before he took up arms is completely incorrect.

268 posted on 02/17/2010 4:07:52 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bigun
I have little faith that you will but you really should read John Remington Graham's "A Constitutional History of Secession".

Why? Is there anything new in there that hasn't already been posted on any Lost Causer blog?

269 posted on 02/17/2010 4:11:06 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Who is John Galt?
Typical bull crap from N-S: if it's indisputable, documented historical fact, with which he disagrees (due to his personal biases ;>) he responds - ''If you say so.'

Well that's because I wasn't aware that the great and all-knowing Galt thought that it was 'indisputable, documented, historical fact'. Had I known that well I would never have had the temerity to join in and point out where I thought Bigun was in error. After all, how can one argue with the genius who developed the political theory that the Constitution is analogous to the Publisher's Clearing House contest? I assume that your multi-volume study on that comparison is in the works?

270 posted on 02/17/2010 4:18:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
Non_sequitur is really a “copperhead” at heart, he only takes the contrarian side to amuse himself.

You forgot the </sarcasm> tag.

271 posted on 02/17/2010 4:19:47 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
Non_sequitur is really a “copperhead” at heart, he only takes the contrarian side to amuse himself.

We're gonna have to disagree on this, VA.

NS is a liberal troll that totally hates the South and all things Southern and cruises this board 24/7 just to post his lies and his revisionist version of history on WBTS threads.

If I was a mod I'd hit him so hard with the ban hammer that his mommy would get dizzy.

272 posted on 02/17/2010 4:51:20 AM PST by cowboyway
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To: Lauren BaRecall
Southern soldiers would get together with Northern soldiers for a game of baseball. Sometimes they were just guys, speaking the same vernacular.

But most of the time they were warriors; one side defending their homeland and the other side following their corrupt leaders whose objective was to subjugate the Southland for personal, financial and political gain.

273 posted on 02/17/2010 4:57:25 AM PST by cowboyway
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To: cowboyway
NS is a liberal troll that totally hates the South and all things Southern...

If you ever posted anything that was remotely true I'm sure most of the rational people on this forum would keel over from the shock and suprise. I know I would.

If I was a mod I'd hit him so hard with the ban hammer that his mommy would get dizzy.

The mods tend to be intelligent people who go to great lengths to promote a free and open exchange of ideas on this forum, and who above all strive to be fair and impartial. You obviously don't meet any of the qualifications.

274 posted on 02/17/2010 5:24:17 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
But most of the time they were warriors; one side defending their homeland and the other side following their corrupt leaders whose objective was to subjugate the Southland for personal, financial and political gain.

And the followers of the corrupt leaders lost and the good guys won. Sometimes life is fair.

275 posted on 02/17/2010 5:26:45 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Well that's because I wasn't aware that the great and all-knowing Galt thought that it was 'indisputable, documented, historical fact'. Had I known that well I would never have had the temerity to join in and point out where I thought Bigun was in error.

Error? When anyone suggests that "[t]he States created the Federal government and not the other way around," I would hardly call it an "error." But then, I'm not "Non-Sequitur."

After all, how can one argue with the genius who developed the political theory that the Constitution is analogous to the Publisher's Clearing House contest? I assume that your multi-volume study on that comparison is in the works?

LOL! Rules of admission are just that - rules of admission. Only an idiot (or "Non-Sequitur") would suggest that rules of admission necessarily imply similar rules and authority with regard to departure...

;>)

276 posted on 02/17/2010 5:35:34 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: central_va
Non_sequitur is really a “copperhead” at heart, he only takes the contrarian side to amuse himself.

(And I only pull his chain, because he reacts so 'energetically'... ;>)

277 posted on 02/17/2010 5:37:34 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: Who is John Galt?
LOL! Rules of admission are just that - rules of admission. Only an idiot (or "Non-Sequitur") would suggest that rules of admission necessarily imply similar rules and authority with regard to departure...

And I'm sure I speak for millions of others when I say I'm looking forward to your book explaining how the Constutition and a marketing campaign are almost identical. Can I get an autographed copy?

278 posted on 02/17/2010 5:55:46 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
WIJG: LOL! Rules of admission are just that - rules of admission. Only an idiot (or "Non-Sequitur") would suggest that rules of admission necessarily imply similar rules and authority with regard to departure...

N-S: And I'm sure I speak for millions of others when I say I'm looking forward to your book explaining how the Constutition [sic] and a marketing campaign are almost identical. Can I get an autographed copy?

And yet another non sequitur from Non-Sequitur!

;>)

279 posted on 02/17/2010 5:59:27 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: Who is John Galt?
And yet another non sequitur from Non-Sequitur!

Surely you're not going to deny the world a more in depth explanation of your brilliant political theory? Maybe volume one can be on the similarities between the Constitution and Publishers Clearing House and in volume two you can link the Constitution and the Lotto?

280 posted on 02/17/2010 6:09:44 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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