Glenn Beck Discusses Lincoln with "Expert"

Glenn Beck Show ^ | 2/15/2009 | Self

[central_va]

Did anyone here see tonight's Glenn Beck TV show segment with the author (Lehrman?) of Lincoln at Peoria?

[central_va]

It was a short amusing segment. On national TV this "expert" was asked if Lincoln was a strong supporter of states rights by Glenn. The guy said yes he thought so, BWAHAAAAAAA!!!! ROTFLOL! Then Glenn said why should states be required to bail out CA and go bankrupt, should they be allowed alternatives such as secession. Of course not said the "expert", we can elect a new govt. every four years bla blah blah..So, Glenn are you reading this? Comments anyone? Calling Lincoln a strong supporter of States Rights is like calling Al Gore a strong supporter of US Energy Independence....

[central_va]

ping

[JasonC]

The south wanted the supreme court through Dred Scott to impose a spread of property in slaves everywhere, and to enforce it even in northern states that had outlawed slavery. Including Lincoln's Illinois. It was this invasion of Illinois's sovereign rights that, in Lincoln's opinion, invalidated the Scott decision. The south went to war rather than see a man seated as president who would not uphold the Scott decision.

The south went to war not for state's rights, but to enforce the supreme court trampling on them, in the name of slavery. Sure they waved state's rights around like a flag. But they didn't practice them, and they'd kill rather than recognize the right of Illinois to free a man in Illinois.

[GeronL]

Didn’t the Confederacy strengthen their central government more and more during the war?

[central_va]

<>Hey Jason, History quiz, who made the following statements regarding slavery?

My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union

[Vaquero]

“...The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure....God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion....”
Thomas Jefferson

[ConservativeMan55]

bttt

[WKUHilltopper]

Did Beck ask Lincoln if he was a 9/11 truther too?

[ChrisInAR]

I watched it...I wish that he also had Thomas DiLorenzo on in order to make it a FAIR & BALANCED discussion. Lincoln is NO HERO as far as I'm concerned.

Deo vindice!

[bcsco]

I’ve never seen Blanche Lincoln as being in favor of states rights...

[billorites]

People would be wise to give Lew Lehrman's Lincoln at Peoria a careful, thoughtful read.

[LS]

Yep. The so-called "free" South in over 150 separate areas investigated by Richard Bensel in his book Yankee Leviathan had a worse record for white human rights; a worse record on property rights (higher taxes, confiscation, etc.) and a more centralized government than the Union.

On, and the Confederacy had this little thing in its Constitution called slavery . . . three times. It stated that even if a state somehow banned slavery, it had to protect the rights of slaveholders who brought their slaves into that state. Yeah, that sounds like "states' rights" to me. (sarcasm)

[Paul Ross]

Properly read in its historical context, the text does not refute JasonC whatsoever. You see, the South didn’t care what he said as President, they already knew how he felt about slavery, and what he would ultimately do. Which, btw, he did. The emancipation declaration against the slave-holding states at war with the union was, thus, something of a Southern-induced self-fulfilling prophecy.

[SkyDancer]

Carl Sandburg is dead - the only Lincoln expert. However I do know that Lincoln’s hobby was ............ cats ........

[SatinDoll]

You are missing an important point.

The southern states hid behind “States Rights” to protect slavery. By claiming that black Africans weren’t truly human but less than 100% human, they tried to prevent the Bill of Rights being applied to what was an economic necessity in their region.

[central_va]

Lincoln is NO HERO as far as I'm concerned.

Look if somebody wants to make The Illinois Butcher™ a hero, fine. Just don't try make him into some states rights Savior. That doesn't flush....

[central_va]

People would be wise to give Lew Lehrman's Lincoln at Peoria a careful, thoughtful read.

When I run out of toilet paper.

[goodwithagun]

You are exactly right. We have a God given right to life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The right to liberty trumps state’s rights to deprive someone of liberty.

[central_va]

So on top of being a butcher he is a liar too. Some defender you are....

[iowamark]

Lewis Lehrman’s book “Lincoln at Peoria”: http://www.lincolnatpeoria.com/

Lincoln was a supporter of the US Constitution, as were most Americans, north and south. That is why the attempted secession failed. The Southern Founding fathers all regarded secession as treasonous. The secession attempt of 1860-61 was an attempt to overthrow the USA and replace it with a slave empire extending into the Caribbean and Latin America in alliance with the most extreme regressive European elements. All Americans should thank God it failed.