Posted on 12/11/2009 4:39:58 PM PST by cold start
New Delhi: A genetic study has found that Indians are the ancestors of the Chinese and other East Asian populations.
The study, a joint project of 10 Asian countries, found that India received a wave of migration from Africa 60,000-70,000 years ago and these early humans subsequently moved to East and Southeast Asia. The earlier belief was that humans from Africa reached India and East and Southeast Asia separately.
The study has important implications, especially in the understanding of human migratory patterns and in the investigation of genetics and disease.
The findings of the five-year study -- conducted by a group of 90 scientists, including those from India, in a consortium of 40 Asian laboratories under the Human Genome Organisation -- have been published in the journal Science.
The study analysed genetic data of 1,900 individuals representing 73 population groups. The findings showed that Asian genetic ancestry correlated highly with ethnic and linguistic groups and "considerable gene flow was observed among sub-populations of the clusters" that were studied; the clusters included "groups believed to practice endogamy (marriage within a group) based on linguistics, cultural and ethic information".
"This large study establishes that Indians are ancestors of the Japanese, Chinese and all other East Asians. All these populations have a common genetic origin and it shows that India represents a microcosm of Asia's genetic diversity," said Samir Brahmachari, director-general, Council for Scientific and Industrial Research -- a participant in the study.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f8258128-e5f4-11de-b5d7-00144feab49a.html
That headline just destroys the whole concept of evolution. heh.
“The Chinese evolved from Indians”
More like the Chinese, Japanese, etc. all derive from the same source. It’s something else to say they’re all “Indians”.
Evolved? What, are Indians and Chinese different species? Geesh. Racial differences between different ethnic groups don’t mean sap to a lamp post, genetically speaking.
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The "earlier" thesis that was put to rest quite some time ago was that India, SE Asia, New Guinea and Australia had been settled by a group that didn't go anywhere else.
Obviously that story was in error if they show up in Northern and Eastern Asia.
The accepted view has been that humans known as the San came up from South Africa to the African/Asian litoral and migrated on around to India, and from there to Sundaland, to Australia, et al, some 75,000 years ago. Some of them moved North to Central Asia North of the Himalayan Ice Cap during a lengthy interstadial about 50,000 years ago.
An interstadial is a warm period of less than 10,000 years that occurs during a period of major glaciation. An interstadial can affect the entire globe, or a major portion.
The Western branch of the Euro/Chinese group began dividing into the Sa'ami and the non-Sa'ami parts about 15,000 years ago just as The Big Ice was melting away. The Eastern branch of the Chinese/Euro group began dividing into two groups at about the same time. The smaller of the two groups have molars with 5 roots (other humans have 4 roots). This makes it possible to differentiate between the two groups in archaeological digs.
Today we usually think of major differences between populations in terms of color, culture and language. At the same time thanks to DNA analysis we can dispense with the element of "color" and discuss them in terms of DNA markers. 5 roots on your teeth is a pretty good one, but there are others which taken in combination can reveal primary ancestral backgrounds of the four groups who were originally a single group that left the shores of the Arabian gulf and moved North to Central Asia.
Oh, those Indians. What about the other ones? Indians descended from Indians? Columbus was right.
That headline just destroys the whole concept of evolution. heh.
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Yes. If there was evolution in this case, why are the chromosomes still compatible for procreation? Perhaps “evolved” was misused here.
Human populations are tightly interwoven
Nature | September 29, 2004 | Michael Hopkin
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I guess the author should be asked if Chinese are a different species than the Indians
How about an independent origin somewhere on/around the continental shelf of Indonesia? Many symbols such as the tree of life appear to have moved from east to west.
There is an incredible drive in some parts of academia to have everything originate in Africa.
Indian ancestry revealed
Nature News | 23 Sep 2009 | Elie Dolgin
Posted on 09/23/2009 5:45:59 PM PDT by BGHater
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The people who write headlines are not those who write the articles. The copy editor/headline writer made a dumb mistake. It happens all the time.
and wth, why not:The Scars of Evolution:"The most remarkable aspect of Todaro's discovery emerged when he examined Homo Sapiens for the 'baboon marker'. It was not there... Todaro drew one firm conclusion. 'The ancestors of man did not develop in a geographical area where they would have been in contact with the baboon. I would argue that the data we are presenting imply a non-African origin of man millions of years ago.'"
What Our Bodies Tell Us
About Human Origins
by Elaine Morgan
The Neandertal EnigmaFrayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
by James Shreeve
in local libraries
definitely dumb!
It ain’t official til blam weighs in...
It must be korma.
Probably also invented the roti sari, to wear while baking viet nan.
“Perhaps ‘evolved’ was misused here.”
Obviously, they didn’t mean genetic evolution. Though there are certainly some genetic differences. It’s more like how rock ‘n’ roll “evolved” from the blues. Except, as stated, genetics has a tiny little bit to do with it.
As did a number of other things like the story of Cain and Abel.
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