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Obama in a Bind Over Country of Birth
News Blaze ^ | November 25, 2009 | Alan Gray

Posted on 11/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama is in a fix over his country of birth.

The President started to dig the hole as Senate candidate and now he is president, the hole is getting deeper and uglier, mainly because of his evasive actions. Many Democrat supporters are either ignoring the problem or are vehemently attacking "birthers" who question the President's eligibility.

Republicans are not the only ones concerned about his eligibility. Libertarians, independents, constitutionalists and even democrats are wondering why Obama is fighting so hard to hide his origin.

Unfortunately, Obama dug the hole himself, and like a hole created when a water main leaks and then bursts, the hole is expanding day by day and as it does, the fallout is increasing.

The President and his legal teams have done everything in their power to prevent anyone from accessing his real birth certificate, if he has one, but there are other lines of investigation they cannot block.

During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.

So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii, and the Kenya story was a lie, used to deceive Illinois voters.

Obama can't have it both ways. The answer to this question will be interesting!

Of course, he could say the campaign and the reporters all got it wrong, but it will be interesting to follow the trail on this investigation and discover the sources for the AP story that documents the apparent fact that Obama was Kenyan born.

If it wasn't the truth back then, why didn't he stop the campaign using that information and why didn't he make the AP issue a retraction?

Obama supporters who say it is nobody's business, need to take a step back, imagine the president is George Bush and ask themselves the same question they should ask now. "Is it OK for the President to hide his origin and what are his motives for doing it?"

I want there to be a simple, truthful answer to these questions, but I have a strange feeling the answer is not what any of his supporters wants to hear.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; hoax; ineligible; kenyabelieveit; kenyanborn; notpresident; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; soetoro; treason; unconstitutional
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To: Vermont Lt

There are two conditions for being a natural born citizen: born on the soil of the country and born of citizen parents. If Dukakis’s parents had been United States citizens at the time of his birth (they likely were as they’d been here about 10 years prior to his birth, so they had probably become naturalized by then, but I’d have to verify that) then he was a natural born United States citizen. Being born on U.S. soil, in and of itself, is not sufficient to make one a natural born U.S. citizen.


261 posted on 11/26/2009 6:59:54 PM PST by thecodont
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To: MikefromOhio
Circular argument. Big time. There are no guarantees any decision made by Obama on Afghanistan would have affected anything that has happened to this point.

Using that logic, no action should ever be taken on any issue given there are no guarantees of a specific or desired outcome.

But let's look at guarantees.

Take a person like Obama who has never served in the military, who has never studied any part of the military, its history, tactics or even basic military theory.

Obama has no understanding of Just War Theory, what constitutes a war crime or even the basic structure of the various branches of the military he unfortunately is Commander and Chief of. Combine that with Obama's lack of any type of executive or organizational experience and a demonstrated lack of respect for our troops and there is one assured guarantee.

I guarantee Obama will make the wrong decision 100% of the time if he does not listen to those who have spent their lives serving this nation, who have been and are under fire.

I know which guarantee I'd rather see our troops having the choice of.
262 posted on 11/26/2009 7:13:12 PM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: seekthetruth

I missed hearing Krauthammer this evening, but his saying that BO was reared in Indonesia is quite significant!


BO spent four years from the age of six to ten in Indonesia. His mother married Soetoro and in 1967 they moved to Jakarta. Four years later BO moved back to HI to live with his grandparents where he graduated from HS. Can a parent reject a child’s birthright for him/her and/or at what age can a chlid reject it?


263 posted on 11/26/2009 7:16:58 PM PST by deport (97 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
"Citation please."

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born04.htm

264 posted on 11/26/2009 7:29:28 PM PST by GVnana ("Obama is incredibly naive and grossly egotistical." Sarkozy)
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To: MikefromOhio; al baby
So wishing Obama dead is the way to go about it?

You disgusting POS. I said nothing about wishing 0ba-Mao dead. The post you were responding to, by al baby, said nothing about wishing him dead. You are a real lowlife to try and put words like that in our mouths. FU!

265 posted on 11/26/2009 8:24:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bfl


266 posted on 11/26/2009 8:28:01 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

NO, he knows our top secrets what’s his name needs to be locked up in confinement the rest of his life...and so does his wife....let grandma raise the kids.


267 posted on 11/26/2009 8:29:58 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Danae

The impostor and usurper is totally Teflon proof until 2012 and beyond. None in the two other government branches, including all the media will lift an eyebrow to remove him. And BTW he is only the tip of the ice berg!!!


268 posted on 11/26/2009 8:31:44 PM PST by danamco
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To: Drew68

Dual and/or maybe triple citizenship is good enough to be President of the United States???


269 posted on 11/26/2009 8:37:04 PM PST by danamco
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To: deport
“Can a parent reject a child’s birthright for him/her and/or at what age can a child reject it?”

It is my understanding that a parent can reject a child's citizenship for him/her, but believe if one was once a US citizen they can change back by going through a process to do so. Perhaps another Freeper can answer your question as I am not sure.

270 posted on 11/26/2009 8:38:23 PM PST by seekthetruth ("PLEASE PRAY FOR OBAMA - Psalm 109:8 ")
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To: seekthetruth

Have a good turkey day Mom?


271 posted on 11/26/2009 8:42:42 PM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Lower55
Nope. Not so. But keep repeating it if it makes you feel better.

Don't need to keep repeating it to feel better. I have precedent.

Yeah, that's the Chief Justice swearing in a man with a foreign father to the office of the presidency.

What have you got besides 50+ (and counting) courtroom losers?

So you can keep repeating that I'm wrong over and over again if it makes you feel better. The real world shows differently, yet you birthers continue to wail and gnash your teeth because nobody outside of your birther groupthink circle-jerk is buying your absurd definition of Natural Born Citizen.

272 posted on 11/26/2009 8:51:11 PM PST by Drew68
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To: thecodont

Lou Dobbs is/has!!!


273 posted on 11/26/2009 8:52:29 PM PST by danamco
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To: seekthetruth
It is my understanding that a parent can reject a child's citizenship for him/her, but believe if one was once a US citizen they can change back by going through a process to do so. Perhaps another Freeper can answer your question as I am not sure.

Parents cannot renounce their children's citizenship according to the U.S. State Department's web site.

274 posted on 11/26/2009 8:54:29 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Vermont Lt
In 50 years I have never heard anyone define someone born in this country as “not being a natural born citizen.”

That's because this absurd birther definition of Natural Born Citizen wasn't hobbled together until shortly after Obama was elected. But they'll tell you it's been the Law of the Land since time immemorial.

275 posted on 11/26/2009 8:57:12 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Parents cannot renounce their children's citizenship according to the U.S. State Department's web site.

How can U.S. State Dept. say that if he is NOT a U.S. citizen???

276 posted on 11/26/2009 9:05:06 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
How can U.S. State Dept. say that if he is NOT a U.S. citizen???

Let's see. Outside of the birther circus there is no compelling evidence that Obama was born anywhere besides Hawaii and outside of the birther circus nobody is buying this absurd definition of Natural Born Citizen that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens.

That's how.

277 posted on 11/26/2009 9:12:04 PM PST by Drew68
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To: TigersEye

I’m THRILLED I have you approval.

Makes me think I’m correct in my thinking here.

And maybe next time you should look before you post.


278 posted on 11/26/2009 9:26:44 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: Brytani

That’s great.

That still doesn’t prove or disprove what I said.

And what you said about him not listening to the military isn’t just an affliction suffered by Marxist Democrats....


279 posted on 11/26/2009 9:27:34 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: MikefromOhio; al baby

Screw you, dirtbag. Show me where anyone said anything about wishing 0ba-Mao dead. Do it or STFU.


280 posted on 11/26/2009 9:29:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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