Posted on 11/24/2009 9:27:06 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Today, November 24, it is exactly 150 years since Charles Darwin published his On the Origin of Species.
The world has been gearing up for this second echelon of celebrations for this international Year of Darwin, following on from the 200th anniversary of his birth this last February. Atheists and humanist groups in particular have seemed to be relishing the thought of giving further prominence to the ideas of their patron saint. Their adulation is heightened by their knowledge that...
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I know I shouldn't say, this, but only your ignorance makes you blind to the existence of this evidence. We are anatomically related to animals. We share the genetic code with them (98% with chimpanzees). On the molecular level, we even share parts of certain enzymes with bacteria. So, either we evolved (in a process designed and put in motion by God, as I believe), or God (as you seem to believe) created us like a junkyard tinkerer creates his newest masterpiece. Don't you think that Young Earth Creationists show less respect to God by claiming this "created as is"?
The Word did not come directly from God to you or me. If not for the Holy Spirit guiding the hand of man the Scripture would not have been committed to paper or translated numerous times since. Since, as you admit, man is fallible, both our transcription and our interpretation of the Word are flawed (unless, of course, you profess to be flawless in this regard).
Darwinism has long been used as a philosopical brickbat for every leftwinger running the Democrat party, because they hate what the Bible says about sin, death and hell.
Oh BARF!!
Not that tired old canard again.
Assembling something using the same parts is not a *junkyard tinkerer*. Nor is thinking that believing that God created everything *as is* is showing any disrespect to Him when He tells us in His word that that is what He did.
The typical evo portrayal of instantaneous creation as somehow beneath God or unworthy of Him, or somehow demeans Him has absolutely no basis. There is no Scriptural support for that and there is no rational support for that.
It's merely another in a long line of evo mind games trying to manipulate creationists into thinking as they do. If you can't convince them, then try to intimidate them or humiliate them. Somehow appeal to their sense of shame or fear of incurring God's disapproval for what they think so that they'll change their minds.
For all the criticism by evos of creationists that creationists claim to have in *in* on how God thinks, evos sure act like THEY do instead.
If God created animals very similar, it's proof that God didn't *create them as is* but that He used evolution instead. If God had created animals very different it would be proof that God didn't create them cause why would an intelligence creator create things so different.
The *heads I win, tails you lose* mentality which evos constantly regale creationists with is ridiculous.
The most obvious reason God would have used similar materials is twofold. One is that we share an identical environment. The other is that all life consumes other life for survival. It would make infinitely more sense that God used the same materials so that plants and animals would nourish each other instead of being inedible or nutritionally inadequate.
The only thing that shows less respect to God is the evo portrayal of Him being less than He is because He didn't do something the way they think He should have.
Why the double standard, one for creationists and one for evos?
It's not a double standard. It's not the deciding which passages to interpret that discredits creationists, it's then turning around and telling everyone else "My interpretations are just what the Bible obviously means, but your interpretations are going to send you to hell." As far as I know, evos who believe in God are all for intepreting passages in light of current knowledge.
Also, (1) We definitely do not share the same environment with whales, for example. Yet the similarities exist and they suggest something. (2) The preservation of a particular sequence of amino acids has NOTHING to do with the nutritional value of a protein or lack of it. The preservation of this sequence, however, implies a relationship.
I got as far as the first sentence....the first untruth.
NOT ONCE have I said or limited in any way what people can or can not say here.
First sentence contains an untruth, the rest cannot be much better.
I do not pervert your theology in ANY MANNER (untruth #). I will, however, laugh at the notion of Man living with 100+ species of meat eatting dinosaurs.
Cry me a river...
Oh, brother.
PKB, Dude, BIG time:
In your case, I believe it may be possible that you came from a lower life form.
Lots of big words there.
metmom, I was educated before the start of the Dept of Education. What did Behemoth try to say?
Can anyone on this forum, subscribing to the evo standpoint READ?
LINK (this same message!)
Ill type slow so you can follow...
In order to determine the meaning of those words, it helps not to have a skull full of mush
Did you seriously just ask such an anile question?
...and those are from today only.
Really, if you want to be a bit acerbic, it doesn't bother me. But to be as derisive as any other user, and then turn around and lecture others on the subject -- IOW, to be an offender, a hypocrite and a whiner -- is irritating. (Well, the whining is irritating. The hypocrisy is actually kinda funny.)
Thanks for the ping!
Fine. Laugh.
Man lives with many varieties of meat eating carnivores. Shouldn't we laugh at that idea, too?
Gen 6:11 Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight and was full of violence.
Yeah, you show me ONE 50 foot long, 10 ton man eater Man lives with.
...because Man lives with lions and tigers and bears, does not mean Man lives with large meat eating dinosaurs.
Care to quote the part of the Bible where the dinosaurs were somehow left behind when the Flood hit?
Agamemnon, wacha been drinking?
It appears you and I have to a degree shared the same experience.
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