Posted on 11/24/2009 9:27:06 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Today, November 24, it is exactly 150 years since Charles Darwin published his On the Origin of Species.
The world has been gearing up for this “second echelon” of celebrations for this international “Year of Darwin”, following on from the 200th anniversary of his birth this last February. Atheists and humanist groups in particular have seemed to be relishing the thought of giving further prominence to the ideas of their patron saint. Their adulation is heightened by their knowledge that...
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Perhaps you could not only courtesy ping others when you talk about them, especially by name, but also note who you are talking to so you don't include their name about them in the post to them.
But then again, it seems that courtesy is not an evo strong point.
ElectricStrudelPoodle tries to pretend he's a scientist of any accomplishment yet he doesn't even know the difference between the terms "myosin," "Myocin," and the suffix "-mycin."
He's probably got a GRE, and at best likely works as a failed 3rd shift glassware jocky in a groundwater testing lab someplace.
Just another washed-up evo-poseur.
Busted this fool on another thread. He is the living embodiment of "bogus."
FReegards!
I have a BSME, MS in Chemistry, and a minor in Philosophy. What's yours?
Thank you for providing further evidence to support my point.
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Well, there it is. Pretty simple and easy to find also. The problem is that the Catholic Church is 'appeasing' and 'compromising' to attract greater numbers of 'believers' while discrediting the Word of God and calling God a liar.
Look further:
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
God created the animals 'after their kind'. He did not create a 'proto-animal that would give us diversity. Nope, he did not.
So, Natural Law, do you believe also that Jesus is our Risen Savior?
The OCD that evos display when encountering a creationist thread is really pathetic to behold.
They aren’t pinged to them by GGG, and yet they swarm every thread ranting about how it *belongsinreligion* and taking every opportunity to mischaracterize creationists in a vain attempt to win people over to the evo side by trying to make creationists and Christians look so moronic that the evo position is the only one left.
In the meantime, their anti-God, anti-Christian, anti- religion agenda shines forth in their rabid rantings about the perversion of science.
You’d think that if it bugged them so much that they’d just ignore it instead of going on a virtual Crusade to eliminate the heresy.
I think we are close to an amiable solution, because this is exactly what we are asking for: keep these fields (science and theology) separate. Nobody here on FR is going to visit your church and forcibly replace the crucifix with a portrait of Darwin. Be similarly considerate and accept the fact that SOME people have to deal with objective reality, at least if you want to have antibiotics, electricity and similar things. The 'creation science' quackery is incompatible with science, so please, just believe (John 20:29), instead of perverting science to supplement your lack of faith with "scientific" corroboration.
I didn’t ask you.
And THAT is what I am calling them on.
Remember the TV or radio debates “It’s offensive!!” Well, then just change the channel.
You don’t agree with a Creationist thread, do not open it.
Of course I do. Do you believe that God teaches us both through Scripture and through the Holy Spirit and that the Holy Spirit continues to guide each of those who have accepted Jesus as their personal Saviour? Do you believe that God gave man the gifts of intellect and reason so that man could use them to pursue His greater glory?
Do you believe in the fallibility of man? Do you believe that Scripture was authored by God, but communicated to us by the hand of fallible men and that in one of the reasons the Holy Spirit continues to guide us?
I thought that since you sent that to the entire FR directory it included everyone in the FR directory. I didn't ask why, but now you know.
I didn’t send it out to the entire FR directory. Only those names in the *To:* field and one specifically, the first one, to whom the questions were addressed originally.
Yes to all
Do you believe that God gave man the gifts of intellect and reason so that man could use them to pursue His greater glory?
Yes
Do you believe in the fallibility of man? Absolutely, Evos are a good example. Do you believe that Scripture was authored by God, YES but communicated to us by the hand of fallible men YESand that is one of the reasons the Holy Spirit continues to guide us? No, because the Word is True, as written, as communicated by God. You had it till that last part.
Now my turn. Since you obviously subscribe to the idea that the Bible is incorrect, because Science tells you so, WHat OTHER parts of the Bible do you hold to be False? Do you not feel that pointing to parts of the Bible as being 'incorrect' is tantamount to calling God a Liar? Do you hold that the mind and intellect of man trumps what God has given us as His Word?
I repeat: just believe (John 20:29), instead of perverting science to supplement your lack of faith with "scientific" corroboration.
My credentials, by the way: PhD in physical chemistry
Wait a minute here there is no possible way you can have it both ways. And your credentials mean squat to me or God.
JUST as your SCIENCE says that there is no way that the earth is <10,000 yrs old, that SAME Science says that a body dead 3 days ain’t getting up anytime soon.
You proclaim Faith in your Risen Savior (As do I), and then point your crooked little learned finger at His Book and declare Him a LIAR!
As I have stated in previous posts I am an advocate of Theistic Evolution as taught by the Roman Catholic Church. This clearly establishes God as the Creator. Science and research may one day reveal, to the benefit of man and the greater glory of God the process used in resurrection, but for now I am comfortable in knowing that He is risen.
Now answer my questions.
The comparisons are ludicrous and display your ignorance of the history of science.
Scientists, and FRevos in particular, are not nearly as objective as they portray themselves to be. They are not superior than others for any particular reason. They are not more rational or objective and it is not an inherently superior philosophical position to take.
As far as advances in science go, you ought to take a look at the beliefs of the scientists who gave us things like penicillin and electricity.
Penicillin was discovered by accident and Michael Faraday was a devout Christian, very conservative even by today's standards.
There is no reason to keep theology and science separate as there is no reason to keep religion and politics separate.
The great scientists of the last few centuries saw no conflict between the two.
The current mentality that they must be kept separate and religion relegated to the back of the bus is an artificial construct by those who want to eliminate it and found in science the perfect weapon and found in scientists the perfect useful idiots.
Remove religion from science and there's no moral restraint to stop things like embryonic stem cell research.
Remove religion from politics, and there's no moral restraint on the actions of politicians.
Science never fared well in an atheistic environment or society.
Since science is allegedly silent on the issue of God, scientists are in no position to tell anyone else that they are wrong about their opinions on God's involvement of science.
Scientists, in passing judgment on God's role in science are violating their own standards that they themselves have set up.
Answer the question. Quit dodging. How does Science support Jesus rising? Or, put another way, how can you, believing that Genesis is false, convince another that the Gospel is true?
I can't answer it any better than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI):
"It says that the Bible is not a natural science textbook, nor does it intend to be such. It is a religious book, and consequently one cannot obtain information about the natural sciences from it. One cannot get from it a scientific explanation of how the world arose; one can only glean religious experience from it. Anything else is an image and a way of describing things whose aim is to make profound realities graspable to human beings. One must distinguish between the form of portrayal and the content that is portrayed. The form would have been chosen from what was understandable at the time -- from the images which surrounded the people who lived then, which they used in speaking and in thinking, and thanks to which they were able to understand the greater realities. And only the reality that shines through these images would be what was intended and what was truly enduring. Thus Scripture would not wish to inform us about how the different species of plant life gradually appeared or how the sun and the moon and the stars were established. Its purpose ultimately would be to say one thing: God created the world."
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