Posted on 10/05/2009 11:36:54 AM PDT by meandog
Health care is in the news — but you have to wonder where all the Christians are. This is one of the biggest issues facing our country and our people, yet no one seems to be bringing a Christian voice or tone to that debate. Have you noticed?
During the presidential campaign, there was much talk about the 50 million or so who have no health care insurance, many of whom who forgo care altogether and then wind up in emergency rooms with more serious, more fully developed illnesses than would have been the case had they sought preventive care. There seemed to be considerable outrage that the greatest nation in the world would allow one-sixth of its people to be without access to care. What happened to "no red states or blue states, but rather the United States?" Political partisanship threatens to short-circuit any progress on providing health care to all.
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I DON’T.
I guess he never heard about “Render unto Caesar, the things that are Caesar’; and to God, the things that are God’s.”
There must be a special bible for LIBs.
Unfortunately, I don’t make enough money to put a dent into what the poor need. I consider part of my taxes that would go to health care, to be my part in that ministering.
Was my clarification in #42 sufficient?
You don’t have to make that much to “make a dent” -
all that is required is 10% (God’s “flat tax”) of your FIRST fruits.
As I said, my ministering is in the form of tax payments. The government has more information on where it is needed than I do, and it can certainly reach more people than I can.
I cannot think of one verse in the Bible that advocates taking wealth from one group of persons by force to help another group of persons in need.
This is where the secular moralists miss out on the Christian message. Giving to the poor is only secondarily about the actual benefit to those in need. It is primarily about the voluntary (emphasis needed) sacrifice by individuals to help other individuals. It is important that the recipients know that an individual sacrificed to help them. Humility on both sides of the giving equation enhances dependence on God’s goodness by all.
Those who do not believe in God have no business telling us who do what He says.
Yea that’s just so Christian of you Bish Gene. Let’s give money to those in government so they can squander it on their own sins instead of doling it out to the poor like they say they will. Just brilliant.
Bishop, Jesus said, “Feed my sheep”. He was speaking to His followers. He didn’t say, “Government, feed my sheep.” We’re supposed to do it ourselves. Why is it so difficult for liberals to understand this?
my ministering is in the form of tax payments. The government has more information on where it is needed than I do, and it can certainly reach more people than I can.
is the worldview, assumptions, and view of government that a LEFTIST has.
That gov't knows enough to spend our money better than a local entity. That those in power are inherently better able to use the resources than a local entity.
Of course, without faith, you wouldn't trust a church, or God, for that matter, to make sure that the resources you "donate" (like taxes are donated, ha) go where they are needed and will be multiplied. I guess you have to put your faith somewhere, and it's pretty clear that yours is in the government.
Another case of B deciding what C MUST do for A, in order that B can feel good about himself.
They interpret "Feed my sheep" as "Hey, you there! Mr. Moneybags, feed my sheep. You know, the lazy sheep who won't work."
Sick, twisted, freaks. There ought to be a special place ... for libtards who quote the Bible to justify their pathetic immoral value system.
This, actually, is more what the commandment to not use the Lord's name in vain means than uttering it as a swear word.
Why, despite decades of Government programs and trillions of dollars in transfer payments, do we still have poverty>?
And THAT's the problem, right there.
The liberal Vicki Imogene interpretation of "What Would Jesus Do" simply allows the heedless and lazy to sidestep their personal obligation to care for the poor and needy by claiming that the government can do it 'better'. (Against every sort of evidence to the contrary, btw, but that's not relevant to the point here).
God did not command that you give "X Dollars" to the poor. He said, though, that you must give - not some faceless government bureaucrat who takes a huge chunk of your tax dollars for himself before any of it helps a poor person. If you can't tithe because of your obligations (including your tax burden), give what you can. If you don't have any money, give of your time.
Thinking that enforced tax on others for the benefit of politically favored groups somehow constitutes 'charity' violates any number of Biblical principles -- including 'render unto Caesar', 'he who will not work shall not eat', 'the Lord loveth a cheerful giver', the principle of subsidiarity, and of course 'thou shalt not steal'.
So. I have no problem with admitting that in some views, I take what would be called a leftist or liberal perspective.
My faith is ultimately with God, as everything that happens, is His doing. I believe that one of the reasons He gave us governments, is so that large number of persons can be taken care of.
The question in #16, was mine. Should I answer my own question?
I guess we still have poverty, because God said we would.
Killing off Grannie and prioritizing productive citizens for health care a la Ezekiel Emmanuel and the Democrats sure ain’t the Christian thing to do...
That's your belief, but can you back it up?
If it is the will of God that governments and not the church or His people are the entity to be in charge of taking care of large numbers of people in need, there's surely some scripturally revealed indication of that that you can refer me to.
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