Meet The Soetoros

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[safetysign]

Indonesia Left to Right:

Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro

This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. Name: Barry Soetoro

Religion: ..... Islam

Nationality: ..... Indonesian

How did little INDONESIAN, Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become president?

Someone who tells lies is a L __ __ r?

[mlo]

Is attacking other freepers really all you can do? Do you ping the moderator because you really expect that your opinions are above questioning? Interesting.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

I thought she looked like Paul McCartney.

LOL! I thought that too.

[XenaLee]

Yes....I recall very well how demanding they were with Bush’s documents, and all the while blatantly lying about anything and everything their little minds could come up with ‘dirt wise’ to accuse him of. Hell, they put Bush under a high-powered microscope back then. ALL the lamestream media participated and reported. With Zero....it’s zip, zilch and nada.

Lefties are deficient of many things...shame, sense of humor, honesty, decency and probably even a soul...but this double-standard is what really ticks me off.....me and several million others. That’s why we won’t let them get away with it any more.

[plenipotentiary]

Why wasn’t the mothers name also put on the form? There was a space for it. “ibu”

[El Sordo]

A parent cannot give up a child’s US citizenship.

Relinquishing citizenship has to be done by the individual themselves and in very specific ways.

[Non-Sequitur]

Obviously that part is not in everyone's Constitution.

Sure it is. But what isn't in it is your definition of natural-born citizen. It isn't in the Constitution or the law or Supreme Court cases. That could be the source for your confusion.

[Non-Sequitur]

But then, I'm not getting paid to be informed on it. Ergo, why I don't spend every waking hour on birther threads as you do.

And yet here you are.

Why doesn't Obama just dispel any and ALL doubt about his eligibility and release his documents?

I can guess at his reasons but why not ask him for yourself? However, I don't imagine he's overly concerned that you doubt his eligibility so I don't think he'll grant your request.

This ain't going away, lefties. You can troll till Hell freezes over, but your 'sponsors' are wasting their money. This will become more of an issue as time goes on. Trust me on that. Oh..and...

Well when you get right down to it they're wasting your money as well, what with the U.S. Attorney handling the defense and all.

S M I L E

Always. I laugh a lot on these threads too.

[MHGinTN]

I’m above your pay grade, obamanoid.

[MHGinTN]

In the words of that imminent philosopher, Bill Engval, 'Here's your sign', skippy:

[nitzy]

I can't tell if you are being serious or are just messing with me. I have no clue what you are talking about.

Why would they be putting in place a "backstory"? Why didn't they claim their daughter was born in the US? Why would they lie about some things concerning their 9 year old son and not lie about other things or people?

[RummyChick]

I am not messing with you. Either you understand or you don’t. Nothing else I can say other than there aren’t many people who could cause this black hole.

CIA KGB..take your pick..now think about STORIES that are made up to fit the spook package..and think about the CIA involvement in Indonesia back then.

Do you know much about the spook business???? If not, open your mind about the need for lies....

[RummyChick]

btw, did you know Julia Child was involved with the spooks? Do you think she ever told a lie???????????????

[A. Patriot]

Until I saw this I was 50/50 on the location of Obama’s birth. Now I am 95% percent sure he was born in Hawaii. It says on this document he was born in Honolulu on 4/8/61 (August 4 1961). Why would who ever filled this out, lie about his birth place but admit that he was a muslim and his nationality was Indonesian? It doesn’t make sense.

I see what you mean. But why has BO sealed all records of his past and spent and estimated $1.4 million fighting lawsuits to release his birth certificate? None of it makes any sense.

[nitzy]

But why has BO sealed all records of his past and spent and estimated $1.4 million fighting lawsuits to release his birth certificate?

My best guess is the whole father part. Either it says his father is unknown and that embarrasses him and calls into question the story his parents were married or it says someone other than the person he claims is his father.

Neither of which is criminal or sinister but a politician would most likely lie about to seem remotely "normal" in order to get elected.

[nitzy]

btw, did you know Julia Child was involved with the spooks?

No, I didn't. Do you think she ever lied about something that made absolutely no sense to lie about?

[CaliforniaCon]

RE: “My best guess is the whole father part. Either it says his father is unknown and that embarrasses him and calls into question the story his parents were married or it says someone other than the person he claims is his father................”

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Agree — I think it’s “father: unknown” or someone more embarrassing than the one we’ve been led to believe was the father. How about Malcolm X? I think Zero strongly resembles Malcolm X. Wonder if his weirdo mother knew that guy?

[RummyChick]

This really isn’t that hard to understand as to why they would claim he was born in Hawaii even if he wasn’t...but can’t help you if you don’t get. There are a myriad of reasons why they might do it.

Just go ahead and believe that they told no lies.

[fours]

You need to keep a few things in mind when thinking about the family in Indonesia.

The CIA was very involved in trying to overthrow Sukarno. At one point, they devised a fake honeytrap and enlisted a CIA cutout as well as Bing Crosby to get involved.

Lolo was a military officer studying in Hawaii.

The Ford Foundation was in Indonesia. Many believe that the Ford Foundation was involved with the CIA.

There is more involved here than a simple marriage between two people that move to Indonesia.

Obama may or may not have been an Indonesian citizen but they got him into school. This school was the same school of the boy who played with Obama - who was only one of two families in the whole country to have a certain car..the other being a gift to the President. Can’t remember the car. Maybe Cadillac.

I am not messing with you. Either you understand or you don’t. Nothing else I can say other than there aren’t many people who could cause this black hole.

CIA KGB..take your pick..now think about STORIES that are made up to fit the spook package..and think about the CIA involvement in Indonesia back then.

Do you know much about the spook business???? If not, open your mind about the need for lies....

OK, so what is the official CIA conspiracy story about Obama? I've heard the CIA blamed for falsifying his birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers, sending him to school to play some rich kid with a Cadillac in Indonesia, and smuggling him from Kenya to Hawaii as an infant. Why, exactly, is the CIA so interested in shuttling this mixed-race baby around the world in the 60s and 70s?

[RummyChick]

You might want to wonder why no name of the child is listed in the divorce to Lolo Soetoro.

[RummyChick]

You tell me who is capable of creating such a black hole in Obama’s history....

I once heard a story...and mind you ..this is just a story...all hearsay.....about ...well I typed the details and decided I had better not...

So how did all these records and info go down a black hole?