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Obama Administration: Depressed and Disabled Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care
IsraPundit ^ | 8/19/09 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 08/19/2009 2:52:03 PM PDT by Winged Hussar

Depression, disability, and "being a financial burden" could constitute "Lebensunwerte Leben" (Life Unworthy of Life) in U.S. Government end of life planning document

"The Death Book for Veterans: Ex-soldiers don't need to be told they're a burden to society" by Jim Towey in today's (August 18) Wall Street Journal says,

    Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."
We downloaded this document directly from the Veterans Administration, and the content suggests that both family finances and depression--a non-terminal illness--could constitute Lebensunwerte Leben, or "life unworthy of life." Smoke is generally indicative of fire and, although HR 3200 says nothing about mandatory end of life planning, euthanasia, or anything else similar to Germany's Aktion T4 program--the euthanasia program that served as a precedent for the Holocaust--we have shown (http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16320) that there is indeed fire to go with the smoke. "Your Life, Your Choices" is simply more evidence, and it even suggests that war veterans with depression consider themselves a burden on the society that sent them to war.

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To: the long march

“But that isn’t really the point. whether one offers a patient information is of no concern to me.”

The wording of that vile questionaire should be of concern to you(if you truly care about our vets or anyone that is ill or old).


281 posted on 08/20/2009 2:06:50 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

I thought you agreed to disagree on this point.....


282 posted on 08/20/2009 2:24:37 PM PDT by the long march
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To: Winged Hussar

This angers me beyond words.

That’s Leftist “gratitude” and “compassion” for you.


283 posted on 08/20/2009 2:24:46 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Winged Hussar

This is disgusting.


284 posted on 08/20/2009 2:26:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Palladin

I guess if I had grown up with a sailboat docked at my family’s oceanside compound I would have developed an insatiable desire for it, too.


285 posted on 08/20/2009 2:38:44 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: Winged Hussar

Evil to the bone.


286 posted on 08/20/2009 2:58:29 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: the long march

I agree it is a useful tool between the doctor, patient, and family. Both my parents had living wills for that reason.

Would like to know what deranged person came up with the idea of the Feds being involved in end of life issues.


287 posted on 08/20/2009 2:59:30 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!

The hits just keep a-coming!


288 posted on 08/20/2009 3:06:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: PhiKapMom

No doubt Pelosi or one of the Emanual brothers or maybe even Pete Singer.


289 posted on 08/20/2009 3:06:58 PM PDT by the long march
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“Think of this: if the $900 billion Porkulus had been skipped, and if it takes a million dollars to save a life (exaggerating for effect) then that could have saved 900,000 lives and we would be no worse off than before.”

The Crimulus package was a boon for beer and lottery ticket sales, neither of which are all that healthy.

290 posted on 08/20/2009 3:18:46 PM PDT by Gabrial (ObamaCare: The efficiency of the Post Office, the compassion of the IRS, the costs of the Pentagon)
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To: the long march

Those Emmanuel brothers are the scum of the earth IMHO.


291 posted on 08/20/2009 3:27:11 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Sounds awfully close to a DEATH PANEL.

Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

"It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government" - Thomas Paine

292 posted on 08/20/2009 3:58:53 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: Winged Hussar
Pinged from Terri Dailies


293 posted on 08/20/2009 4:09:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: timydnuc

Heartily seconded by this Vietnam Marine AND virtually every OTHER Marine I know, even WWII Marines.


294 posted on 08/20/2009 4:23:44 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: the long march
It is easy and cheap to assume that everyone who doesn’t agree with you must be from the other side.

There are only two sides to this, you ain't on the conservative side. zot.

295 posted on 08/20/2009 4:41:07 PM PDT by xone
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To: Winged Hussar
Thank you for the link to the booklet...everyone should consider these issues and it's very helpful. I guess Obama has done some good things. Getting rid of "Your Life, Our Choices" of the Bush Administration is admirable.
296 posted on 08/20/2009 4:47:48 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: the long march

BTW are you a vet, and by that I mean American vet, not ChiCom?


297 posted on 08/20/2009 4:48:05 PM PDT by xone
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To: driftdiver

mandatory?


298 posted on 08/20/2009 4:49:06 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

not mandatory, just personal choice. with family or in Gods creation. not in some hospital


299 posted on 08/20/2009 5:01:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Winged Hussar

This nitwit is no Commander in Chief. I was wondering if this was really another “flat” and “teleprompter” presentation.

Appears it was.

He needs to be charged with treason.


300 posted on 08/20/2009 5:34:15 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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