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How House Bill Runs Over Grandma
IBD Editorials ^ | July 31, 2009 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 07/31/2009 5:11:12 PM PDT by Kaslin

Rationing: In the recesses of the House health care "reform" bill is a provision for end-of-life counseling for seniors. Don't worry, granny, they're from the government and they're here to help.


At a town hall meeting at AARP headquarters in Washington, D.C., President Obama was asked by a woman from North Carolina if it was true "that everyone that's Medicare age will be visited and told they have to decide how they wish to die."

At first, the president joked that not enough government workers existed to ask the elderly how they wanted to die. The idea, he said, was to encourage the use of living wills and that critics were misrepresenting the intent of the "end of life" counseling provided for in the House bill. He did not say, "No, they wouldn't be contacted."

This administration, pledging to cut medical costs and for which "cost-effectiveness" is a new mantra, knows that a quarter of Medicare spending is made in a patient's final year of life. Certainly the British were aware when they nationalized their medical system.

The controlling of medical costs in countries such as Britain through rationing, and the health consequences thereof are legendary. The stories of people dying on a waiting list or being denied altogether read like a horror movie script.

The U.K.'s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) basically figures out who deserves treatment by using a cost-utility analysis based on the "quality adjusted life year."

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To: Salvation
PG 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any “Quality measure” of HealthCare Services as they see fit.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.

PG 525-620 deals with the Government basically taking over nursing homes,

PGs 525-620 deals with the Govt basically taking over nursing homes,long-term care facilities (think assisted living) through regulations of the facilities, the owners of sd facilities, the employees of sd facilities and even the land owners of that sd facilities reside on. Additionally as you read these 90+ pages you can come to the conclusion that any Health related svcs will be determined and rationed by the Govt for our senior citizens and others in nursing homes. This one post should do enough to raise awareness of the control the Govt is exerting over the older population of American citizens.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes & functional status of patients.

41 posted on 07/31/2009 7:07:19 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: mware

The reality is that Social Security and Medicare are both Ponzi schemes that are going to go broke as baby boomers retire and become elderly.

Baraqqicare will only make this worse.

But no baby boomer (unless quite wealthy like a typical US Senator) should expect world class medical care as they become elderly. This country is broke and can’t afford it. Our grandchildren are already overburdened with debt we have borrowed.


42 posted on 07/31/2009 7:10:06 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Kaslin

Please add me to your Investors Business Daily Ping list. Thanks.


43 posted on 07/31/2009 7:26:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (Destroy cars to stop nonexistant global warming & tax citizens $4,500 each time? Crazy.)
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To: concerned about politics

BTTT


44 posted on 07/31/2009 7:33:38 PM PDT by freednumb (Health care?/ Shmealth care!! It's no care for the infirm or the old...ie only the well)
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To: nascarnation

BTTT


45 posted on 07/31/2009 7:35:38 PM PDT by freednumb (Health care?/ Shmealth care!! It's no care for the infirm or the old...ie only the well)
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To: mware

BTTT


46 posted on 07/31/2009 7:36:14 PM PDT by freednumb (Health care?/ Shmealth care!! It's no care for the infirm or the old...ie only the well)
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To: Jmouse007
Lets not forget those that will never be allowed to be born. Millions in neo-natal intensive care to preserve premature or “imperfect” babies will be avoided through selective termination pre-delivery, i.e. mandatory abortion
47 posted on 07/31/2009 7:50:41 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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To: Salvation

Oh my dear God - this makes me just want to cry.


50 posted on 07/31/2009 8:36:50 PM PDT by Guardian Sebastian
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To: Kaslin

You know what’s really sick about this, is that the marxist party relys heavily on the seasoned citizen vote, then they come up with this crap where they are going to be told to go home to die. The democrat party has been hijacked by people who are obsessed with death. Might as well use the skull symbol of the german SS. Makes about enough sense.


51 posted on 07/31/2009 8:54:59 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


52 posted on 07/31/2009 9:06:38 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Kaslin

I think they want to eliminate the older folks, the ones who most vividly remember the real America (the one I love), as quickly as possible, the more easily to destroy our heritage.


53 posted on 07/31/2009 11:11:49 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I wonder how many old people will be ramming their cars into federal buildings.


54 posted on 07/31/2009 11:22:55 PM PDT by MaxMax (Will the real JIM THOMPSON please pick up the white phone)
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To: Guardian Sebastian; Salvation

Is he so hardened a Marxist that he has no empathy any more. I wonder in what style his grandparents went, was it like good stoic Marxists that throw themselves under the bus? I ask since Marxism does not care about natural family, it is happy to break natural family down and build state pseudofamily up.

Even Joe Biden would be more merciful, I think.


55 posted on 07/31/2009 11:29:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Jmouse007
 What did you think was going to happen? YOU senior citizens overwhelmingly voted Obamessiah into power, YOU voted the democRATS into power in the house and senate. YOU wanted "hope" and "change" and sought it from a man that you knew was a socialist, marxist, anti-American, "Afro-centric", "Reverand Wright" black racist whos best friends are domestic terrorists.

BS. Get your facts straight.

The United States made history yesterday in electing the first African-American, Barack Obama, to the presidency. Based upon the mythology of the Baby Boomer generation -- the generation that grew up during the Civil Rights era and reshaped cultural history -- one might have expected Boomers to lead the way in voting for "change."

But they didn't. CNN exit polls showed that Boomers split their votes evenly between Obama and John McCain: 50 percent to 49 percent. The GenY (Millennial) generation voted most lopsidedly for Obama, by a two to one margin, while GenX favored him by a smaller margin. The Silent Generation was the only age cohort that went for McCain, who is, after all, one of them.

Source

56 posted on 07/31/2009 11:52:03 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad

I stand,... er sit corrrected. That said, 1 point is not alot and they are at the head of the line concerning Obama Deathcare.


57 posted on 08/01/2009 3:21:02 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (tot)
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To: Lexinom
I think they want to eliminate the older folks, the ones who most vividly remember the real America (the one I love), as quickly as possible, the more easily to destroy our heritage.

DING DING DING!!!!!

We have a winner!

Seriously, that's spot on!

58 posted on 08/01/2009 10:32:33 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Kaslin

Why would anyone be surprised at anything people would say when they literally have a gun pointed at their heads, and the heads of their entire family?


59 posted on 08/01/2009 10:47:03 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: MaxMax
I wonder how many old people will be ramming their cars into federal buildings.

That's one reason they're crushing the older, heavier cars.

60 posted on 08/01/2009 10:49:34 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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