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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: WOSG

When the long train of abuses (100 years and going)...


801 posted on 07/20/2009 3:00:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: fanfan

I absolutely loved the part where Hillary ascends to the presidency. If we get her and her fans on board, we will truly be bipartisan. And bisexual to boot! Woo hoo!!


802 posted on 07/20/2009 3:03:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: WOSG

“I believe that real American patriots have more faith in our over 200-year-old system of Government than to think it will all collapse just because the wrong people got elected.”

How about defining what a “True American Patriot” is.

I am under the impression that the Founding Patriots believed that any system that men could construct, other men could destroy, and all that it required is a lack of vigilance on the part of the citizens. That is why they very carefully attempted to limit and restrict the power that the government could exercise. A two century long tradition of continuity is certainly no guarantee that a nation or a state will continue into the future. The list of states that no longer exist is quite long.


803 posted on 07/20/2009 3:25:14 PM PDT by Parawan (Do we live in an Empire or a Republic? Ask yourself 'Do I feel like a subject or a Citizen?')
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To: rockinqsranch
>Wording has to be extremely careful as the Left are incredibly astute at incorrect parsing.

I fixed it for you...

804 posted on 07/20/2009 4:11:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: WOSG

Do now?
Use the third box: SUE the government over every action not plainly empowered by the Constitution.

Perhaps with a generous dose of tarring and feathering. Equating that with slavery is a sign of abject wussiness.


805 posted on 07/20/2009 5:22:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: JustAmy
I suggest that we report anyone, including FReepers, that show up with guns. This is not acceptable!

Uh....excuse me. My 2A rights are not negotiable.

806 posted on 07/20/2009 7:24:45 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Sarajevo

I joined this protest with the understanding that it would not be a violent confrontation. If there will be armed hotheads attending this protest, I will stay home and suggest the same to other families.

Guns are illegal in DC. If you want to show up with your guns, please join with one of the other groups. FR is not condoning the use of firearms. You will be helping the MSM destroy FR.


807 posted on 07/20/2009 7:35:16 PM PDT by JustAmy (Republicans think everyday is July4; Democrats think everyday is April 15th!)
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To: El Gato

That was Iran - this is America - we have a 1000 to 1 ratio of available instant communications... we don’t have a totalitarian government (Yet)...

Besides - I really don’t identify with FEAR ... I have no fear of confronting what the government might do to shut us down... I am not afraid of such things ... I want and wish for confrontation ... I want the Obama government to screw up by cracking heads - it will be the end of the Obamanation if he did push for strong arm tactics...

Our Patriot Forefathers did not wince from such thoughts - they did not hesitate, they took action, they did not FEAR... they fought... they did more than talk — they moved forward - struck back, rallied, aroused the crowd — ALL Because our Patriot Heroes of the 1770’s knew the consequences of failure to take action... and the consequences (as is now) would have been to sign up for servitude... indentured slaves to the Monarchy...

The stakes are no different today than they were then...

I for one have no plans to be an indentured slave - owned by Obama — I will FIGHT...


808 posted on 07/20/2009 8:55:16 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL!


809 posted on 07/21/2009 4:49:41 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: JustAmy

Fire arms are NOT illegal in Washington DC.

Because a person is carrying a firearm doesn’t make them a hothead.

But your comment does show you are prejustice against gun owners, perhaps you’re on the wrong forum, maybe try DU.


810 posted on 07/21/2009 4:50:00 AM PDT by stockpirate (The movement to take back America has already started, Sarah is her name.)
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To: stockpirate

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not against gun owners. I am for the 2nd amendment but I believe in responsible gun ownership. I think it would be a big mistake to march into DC armed and ready for civil war.

My family has always owned guns and we will continue to own guns but they will not be used because we were infiltrated by a couple of hotheads. Cooler heads prevail.

Personally, I’m planning to take my 9 yo granddaughter. I have no intention of putting her in the middle of an armed conflict.

I’m sorry if I was misinformed about fire arms in DC. If you are planning to bring gunfire to DC, I suggest you try a different forum. Jim is not suggesting a violent protest. The event organizers are not condoning violence. Maybe you should plan and coordinate a separate march.


811 posted on 07/21/2009 5:07:49 AM PDT by JustAmy (Republicans think everyday is July4; Democrats think everyday is April 15th!)
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To: Travis McGee
A quarter care about the founding vision of the USA, the Constitution, etc.

Of course, if all 77 million of them marched on DC, that would be a different story. :-)

812 posted on 07/21/2009 5:46:56 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I already do...wink...


813 posted on 07/21/2009 6:05:40 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: Jim Robinson

If you are truly serious about this, include a provision to abolish the Federal Reserve. The Warburgs, Rothschilds, Morgans, etc. can go run somebody else’s financial system.

Also, a provision to get us back on a Gold Standard without causing economic collapse in the process would be nice. Part of the government’s problem is that it can print fiat currency with abandon and damn the consequences (hyperinflation). The only serious problem in the way of this, that I see, is that the IMF or some other global organization owns a vast amount of gold, and could thus manipulate our currency if we went back to a Gold Standard.


814 posted on 07/21/2009 6:14:58 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: jessduntno
That would mean that Hillary Clinton would become interim Chief Executive? NO Thank you!! I say that all appointed positions by Obama and Congress are also removed from office - ASAP. There needs to be an interim President and that person should be decided by the Governors of the states until such time as a true vote has been taken. Also, any attempt (e.g. ACORN) at strongly influencing the vote or committing voter fraud should be met with a prison sentence. No more stealing the elections!!
815 posted on 07/21/2009 10:50:34 AM PDT by Wolfman1957
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To: Wolfman1957

“That would mean that Hillary Clinton would become interim Chief Executive?”

As I said to Jim Thompson...I think it is DIABOLICAL...


816 posted on 07/21/2009 10:59:25 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think Hillary is self-interested enough that she would jump at this opportunity. She may be a democrat, but she can tell which way the wind is blowing and position herself accordingly.


817 posted on 07/21/2009 10:59:43 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"If you are truly serious about this, include a provision to abolish the Federal Reserve."

The provision is already there. That's the beauty of restoring the constitution as the supreme law of the land. All federal departments, agencies, programs, pogroms, congressional acts, court rulings, etc, that cannot be proven to be 100% in compliance and expressly enumerated and authorized by the constitution are hereby rendered null and void and shuttered tight. Kaput. I don't see any provision in the constitution for a federal reserve.

We can get along fine without the federal reserve. The only thing they're good at is creating economic bubbles and crashes so huge that they imperil our society and the republic itself. Each bubble to meltdown cycle is larger and more perilous than the last. If this one doesn't wipe us out, the next one (under Obama's socialist guidance) most certainly will.

818 posted on 07/21/2009 11:19:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am glad to see your Statement I have been waiting for some one to get the balls enough to start. You are so right it is time to cast out this government and myself and my family are ready to help. It is time to show Americans are no longer going to take these abuses so lets take back our REPUBLIC and stomp out SOCIALISM and SOCIAL Activists in our GREAT NATION.
http://returnoftheconstitutionalists.blogspot.com/

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL BRAVE AMERICANS WILLING TO FIGHT FOR WHATS RIGHT.


819 posted on 07/21/2009 12:35:13 PM PDT by A Real American Patriot (Bring back CAPITOLISM)
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To: JustAmy
If you are planning to bring gunfire to DC, I suggest you try a different forum. Jim is not suggesting a violent protest. The event organizers are not condoning violence. Maybe you should plan and coordinate a separate march.

Supporting the 2A by open carry of a firearm does not mean the individual is a hothead, nor is it the promotion of violence. It is exercising a right.

Yours is the reason we have so many anti-gun laws on the books.

820 posted on 07/21/2009 1:48:10 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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