Skip to comments.If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim RobinsonEdited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
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(continuing my remarks from prior thread)
Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.
Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.
Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.
An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:
The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.
An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.
A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.
Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.
We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:
The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.
As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:
The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.
We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.
The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.
We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.
The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.
We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.
The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.
The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).
The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.
Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.
Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.
The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.
No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.
All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.
The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.
Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.
The Federal Reserve.
FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.
Etc, etc, etc.
Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.
This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.
While I appreciate your sentiment, I believe that by the 2010 elections it will be too late. The damage being done NOW to the economy of this country will eventually be fatal. There will not be a possibility of ever paying off the debt that's being amassed now. This is the calm before the storm and things are going to get much, much worse. Atlas will shrug...it's just a matter of time.
Also, your fantasy world in which every congresscritter who voted a certain way will be defeated will never happen. Acorn (or whatever they're calling themselves now) and the dems will never let that happen.
I and many others don't see a peaceful end to this Constitutional crisis. The federal government needs to be put back in its place and they won't go quietly into the night!
I would prefer a peaceful secession of the South, the Yankees and their Rino enablers aren't worth it. Let's go for a separation. We would have more luck petitioning state legeslatures IMO.
“When do we begin?”
We’ve begun already. 4/15 TEA Parties, Independence Day, calls to Congresscritters, ObamaCare protests. The 9/12 march is just the next action.
Something to google in a short few weeks - PATRIOT STORM.
“...and stole our Liberty and, apparently, even our will to resist their evil onslaught.”
I was raised by my grandparents and I’m old fashioned in many ways, especially for being a techy, but their generation would not have sat ‘round waiting for the ‘system’ to pay them homage.
They were loud and proud and politicians knew their place then, by and large.
Recent generations are given to acquiescence to a degree and of a type that you can’t call American, really.
It’s strange and frightening.
The left is winning, or so it would appear.
I sincerely believe that we fight right now, or America is on destruction’s expressway.
She will not survive a hard-left government.
This is a seminal moment in our history as a free country and only a few Americans seem to sense it.
Well said. I would add that one of Alinsky's Rules was to make the other side live up to its own standards. The Democrats in power have to live up to their promises or eat their own BS words. Make them. Lies about 95% of Americans getting a tax cut? Make them eat those words.
We saw a little of that with Sotomayor. She was Judge Hypocrite for a few days, distancing herself from her radical statements and associations.
By protesting strongly against ObamaCare - "taxpayer funded abortions! Outlaws private health insurance! taxes small business!" we get to see the rotten edifice of liberalism exposed. As the politicians run away from that agenda, the liberals agenda collapses. Waxman-markey example: They tried to use Waxman-Markey as the tax collector for their liberal spending plans. When the costs to consumers was exposed, they papered it up with rebates. Well, that blew the budget out on ObamaCare. and so it goes.
The Obama agenda is a pile of cr*p and will collapse if enough Americans are made to understand whats in it.
Most of the Yahoo’s around here would not recognize a true “Free Republic” if it bite ‘em on the arse. Do states rights mean anything anymore? We live in a Constitutional Empire unfortunately....
Thanks Jeff. I always got yer back too, amigo. Thick or thin, hot or cold, do or die.
Hey Freeper, yeah you, the guy or gal reading this: Want better Republican leaders? Then GET INVOLVED in rooting out the bad guys and getting the good guys in the Republican party. One example: Help Marco Rubio defeat pro-stimulus Charlie Crist in Florida GOP primary. or ... run for precinct chair.
You CAN make a difference.
Jim, your writings in this thread may have parsed words enough to not meet the definition of treason, but it certainly reads like sedition. Prepare to be disavowed, marginalized, lose membership, and likely be depicted as a wacko. You may welcome the attention, but I don’t want to be associated with it in any way. Please remove my account from Free Republic. Bye.
Such is life. Especially with a screen name like yours. Too bad your humming bird ass can’t support your alligator mouth.
Now who’s being extreme?
Sedition: an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority and tending to cause the disruption or overthrow of the government.
You know how you do this without getting caught?
Get elected POTUS in 2009.
“Prepare to be disavowed, marginalized, lose membership, and likely be depicted as a wacko.”
Life as a non-leftist, I’m afraid.
Have you been off-planet for a while?
We have to suffer the consequences of the previous election, and the best we can do is mitigation. What we do NOW is to SHUT DOWN THE OBAMA AGENDA via the INITIMIDATION of people power who have turned AGAINST his agenda. Say NO to: 1. Higher taxes 2. Massive deficit spending. 3. Govt takeover of healthcare 4. Cap-and-trade energy taxes and regs 5. bailouts and corporate takeovers
Even though Pelosi got her 'yes' vote on Waxman-Markey, they had to sell out so much and twist so many arms it was practically a defeat. That alone has slowed their agenda.
Dont forget that Clinton did NOT get healthcare passed ... and we had a healthier economy that could have paid for it... right now, its utter MADNESS to add a trillion dollar govt takeover onto our already bankrupt government. it got stopped then with a lot LESS push-back from the people. FOCUS our efforts on defeating ObamaCare and we have done the most good.
Also, your fantasy world in which every congresscritter who voted a certain way will be defeated ... Oh please. JimRob wants make Secty of State Clinton the President, advocates overturning an election via a rebellion, and you are lecturing *ME* on 'fantasy'. oh puleeeze.
In some Congressional elections, 80 seats have changed parties. a 10 point swing in the election could swing about 40-50 seats. So we wont get Maxine Waters and her welfare-client voters to change? So be it. We COULD and SHOULD get the majority completely overturned.We COULD and SHOULD get EVERY Congresscritter in a 'right-leaning' district who voted wrong to get tossed. That means bye bye to "pelosi poodle" blue dogs, RINOs who voted for cap-n-trade and other pro-obama fakers and socialists.
I and many others don't see a peaceful end to this Constitutional crisis. There is no constitutional crisis. We just have a very bad President and a very bad Congress doing very bad things that will harm our life, liberty and prosperity. Put down the crack pipe, bro. The cure is to discredit his agenda and not to sound like looney extremists ready to start a war. All you do is help the left discredit anti-Obama conservatives with such unwarranted and extreme statements.
Never give up, Jim.
Oops, 2008, that is.
Request denied, by the way. Your name is permanently associated with FR. Google has already indexed each and every one of your stinking Obama hatin’ posts and when they come for me, they’ll be gunning for you too. And there’s not a damn thing I can do about it.
It’s a crying shame.
“Then why did he sign an EO on his first day in office banning it’s release? Seems “the one” has something to hide.”
“Seems ... to hide” to “illegal” is a HUGE jump in logic. Unwarranted.
What you call ‘fact’ is mere opinion. Failure to see the difference makes for many dangerous extrapolations.
I happen to like Senator Tom Coburn, the current Senator from Oklahoma. You want the guy to die a horrible death and have his corpse on public display. I stand by my “dreadful” comment, and suggest you have no clue what the founding fathers would think of seditious statements like that - many of whom reacted with horror to the French Revolution, put down the ‘whiskey rebellion’ etc.
This is the generation that let the New Deal happen, re-elected the over-powerful court-packing FDR 3 times, etc.
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