Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Then why did he sign an EO on his first day in office banning it's release? Seems "the one" has something to hide.
"I think if the founding fathers were here, there would've been 537 tarred, feathered, dead, rotting corpses swinging from the steps of OUR Capital a long time ago." - What a dreadful thing to say.
The truth is what it is, despite your refusal to accept it. The founding fathers revolted over far less than this government forces upon us with each passing day.
That's fact. Deal with it.
“First, we hold new elections for the house, what says we dont just send the same nit wits back again.”
EXACTLY! Here we are, blaming the Congress-critters for the problem when in fact WE THE PEOPLE VOTED THEM IN OFFICE.
It’s really simple. You want the Congress to follow the Constitution? Then ONLY VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO SO AND MAKE SURE THOSE WHO DONT ARE DEFEATED.
“Second, An amendment requiring term limits must be enacted.”
I agree. I would be generous and make it 6 terms for Congress and 3 terms for Senate. While its a lot, it would still get a lot of incumbents out of there.
“No family member of a retired officeholder will be permitted to run for a vacated office Vote NO on nepotism.
Well said.
Correct. And the Congresscritters know that an organized minority beats a disorganized majority any day.
You’ve got a point there. It may be time for all the weak-kneed big government redcoat loyalists to desert the Liberty Train before it leaves the station for the March D.C.!
Bye.
God forbid these people are represented in our government
No space? That's incredibly short sighted Jim. Future wars will be fought from orbit. Let the Chinese continue their space program while we abandon ours and see how that works out down the road.
You might as well join the fruitcakes who think the Air Force is unconstitutional because it's not expressly mentioned in the constitution.
I’m afraid you’re right. What I’m seeing more and more of here is treason in the works.
On the whole, those in power got there by complying with the Constitution. Bodily throwing them out operates on the wrong side thereof - making them the more Constitutionally-adhering group. I know I’d be drawing the line at someone throwing out my Constitutionally-elected representatives (whom I happen to like as the good guys).
I still think the courts have been grossly under-utilized. File a gazillion suits challenging the Constitutiality of objectionable issues, and force the issues to SCOTUS. As is, we’ve been sitting on our asses hoping someone does that for us.
Bringing DC to a halt via huge crowds of disruptive bodies (A) legitimizes the then-”peaceful” Leftists, and (B) will get a whole lot of people killed, leaving the less aggressive to carry the flame.
The frustration is understandable. A wholesale attempt to bodily “throw the bums out” by installing President Hillary and unilaterally jettisoning amendments to the Constitution in no way could possibly work out well.
Yup. No space. If you wish the federal government to fund space exploration (for social purposes), all you’ve got to do is pass and ratify a constitutional amendment authorizing it. Now, I might see a reason authorizing federal funds for satellite technology strictly limited to national defense, but not for curious social or commercial undertakings. Those should be funded and explored by private enterprise.
“To assert that we cannot take our country back via the ballot box is to assert a wrongful disdain for the patriotism and love of freedom of the American people.”
Oh, Bunk!
I guess the work the left is doing to undermine elections doesn’t compute in your pacifist brain, but it is still taking place.
The ‘system’ you are counting on couldn’t even prosecute men with clubs standing just outside a voting location.
What the heck am I worried about, right? No problem here, folks.
Billions to Acorn isn’t making the ballot box more fair, is it?
And let’s put our trust in all but silence, and, by default, the masses to vote against ‘free’ this-’n-that in the next election.
Oh, yeah, that brings me much comfort.
Elections solve everything, folks. Elections brought us Commie and Company, but have no fear, an election is near.
Unbelievable!
President Hillary, and/or lots of dead FReepers.
Only after a NUMBER of appeals to George III, and only after reform was spurned, did the founders take the course they took.Jefferson also wrote in declaration: "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.".
It there no other way to effect the ends you propose? Why of COURSE there is: #1) Get every Republican 100% opposed to the Obama agenda. #2) Get the Democrats who are politicians first and socialists second (ie want to survive the next election) to feel the heat. #3) Plan to overturn the Democrat majority in the 2010 elections. #4) Pursue your agenda via peaceful and democratic means.
"The only alteration Im proposing is repealing the two amendments...."
The Constitutional way of doing that is to get 2/3rds of Congress then 3/4ths of the States to repeal them. Anything else is extra-legal usurpation of our Constitution. If you want to do the law-abiding way - good luck. If you are just goign to by fiat dink around with the Constitution, then you have no place and no right to talk about your respect for it. And while you might dispute the wisdom of direct election of Senators (given that you've got Boxer and Feinstein, uggg), calling that despotism worthy of a revolution is, well, absurd.
If you love the Constitution and our Federal form of Government, then the answer is obvious: Work within this great system of ours to purge it of the malefactors of socialist kleptocracy. Purge the system of Pelosi, Waxman, Boxer, Obama, Reid, and whole left-liberal Democrat clown show that is bankrupting the treasury, destroying healthcare choice, etc.
Leftists think that "The Ends Justify the Means." They are wrong.
"And if we have the support of millions of people and of the sovereign states and the government does NOT meet our demands, then we simply vote the bastards out! Simple!"
Yes, democracy is simple - but not easy. May I suggest a SIMPLE 5 POINT DEMAND. Instead of trying to depose duly elected politicians, or having a long laundry list of things we cant all agree on, demand a SIMPLE 5 POINT "Taxed Enough Already" AGENDA THAT THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AGREE WITH:
The goal of the 9/12 march needs to be to SHUT DOWN THE LEFTWING SOCIALIST AGENDA ... stopping the 5 items will gut the Obama agenda. if you get one million people making the above demand and MEANING IT ... you will have made the 9/12 march a huge, PEACEFUL and LAWABIDING success!
The alternative to elections, which you seem to hold in such disdain is to let the folks the with the most guns rule the rest of the country. See entry at Rwanda and get back to me if you still think it’s a good idea. Too damned stupid for words.
“...folks with the with the most guns rule the rest of the country”
Yep, that’s what I said.
Read much?
Their parents put them in public schools, and paid big bucks for their college indoctrination.
Not hard to explain at all.
I think most of the damage done in the last century can be laid at the feet of the so-called progressive or populist movements that gave us the 16th and 17th amendments through which they illegally expanded the powers of the federal government and stole our individual wealth and treasure. Through these vehicles they introduced the income tax, the federal reserve, the Raw Deal, the Progressive Society, the Ruling Class, the professional Victim Class, the Nanny State, the Police State, the Welfare State, the Federal Behemoth, the Federal Beast, etc, etc, etc, and stole our Liberty and, apparently, even our will to resist their evil onslaught.
Our current society of brainwashed wimplings roll over for this tyranny on a daily basis. Prior generations (1700’s, 1800’s) of true red-blooded Americans would have rebelled long before it ever got to today’s totalitarianism!
Well every seat in the House of Representatives is up in 2010,I believe a Campaign to “CLEAN OUT THE HOUSE” is in Order ! What do you think Throw all the Bums Out and Lets start over America ,With AMERICAS INTERESTS FOREMOST FOR A CHANGE
“No one is fighting back.”
Huh? You missed the protest at Sen McCaskill’s office ... shut down the office. Read up on the ObamaCare protests around the country. People are fighting back through peaceful protests.
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