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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: Jim Robinson

So far, in Middle Georgia we had one tea party with about a hundred people and no sequel.


181 posted on 07/18/2009 1:39:27 PM PDT by mono
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To: Jim Robinson

What could we do?

Well I can tell you what the media would do: Call us “extremists”. Compare us to terrorists. They’d call us “intimidators” on the left wing blogs. Republican leaders would do everything they could to disassociate themselves from us.


182 posted on 07/18/2009 1:39:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Federal Reserve is hereby dissolved of all and every power it withholds and will partake in major investigations of its employers,employees,assets,transactions ect...


183 posted on 07/18/2009 1:40:10 PM PDT by LiveAnotherDay
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To: seekthetruth

Forunately (for me not them) I have family in D.C. My Brother moved their to study law at GWU a few years back.


184 posted on 07/18/2009 1:40:28 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Perhaps the combined authority of all the Governors would suffice until another CIC was elected. (the non-Liberal ones, at least)

Authority by committee, if you will.


185 posted on 07/18/2009 1:41:56 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Glenn
It is time to put a stop to the anonymity of “government”. It is time to name names. Hold those responsible to the fire. Time to know who the real enemies are. I suspect most are lobbyists who pay to play.


Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we can identify their corporate sponsors.


186 posted on 07/18/2009 1:43:39 PM PDT by glock rocks (... just tryin to make do ...)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

It may be wrong of me, since I have less to lose than most, but here’s a good quote for those people:

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”


187 posted on 07/18/2009 1:44:55 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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To: Tzimisce

“Republican leaders would do everything they could to disassociate themselves from us.”

And how would this be different?


188 posted on 07/18/2009 1:45:17 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Tzimisce

They do that anyway. FReep ‘em if they can’t take a joke.


189 posted on 07/18/2009 1:46:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: jessduntno; The Duke; Jim Robinson; All
“I’m concerned about the approach of marching on DC for a few reasons: 1) If it doesn’t bring about change, then energies are wasted. 2) If passion leads to action, then there are no supplies for a sustained action. 3) The “bad guys” would probably not even be in town.”

One thing for sure, nothing GOOD will happen if we say home and say "What's the use!"

Millions of patriotic peaceful Americans need to serve notice on all Government officials in Washington, DC on 9/12! And yes, they will be in town and they will notice!

190 posted on 07/18/2009 1:46:35 PM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: Tzimisce; Jim Robinson

“Well I can tell you what the media would do: Call us “extremists”. Compare us to terrorists. They’d call us “intimidators” on the left wing blogs. Republican leaders would do everything they could to disassociate themselves from us.”

Respectfully, you have that wrong; in PR terms, a phone call is nearly valuless, an email about the same, a letter, times ten, a personal visit, times 100, an act of civil disobedience, times 1,000. A miliion or more march would be DEVASTATING PR for the agenda of the Kenyan admin...just showing up, let alone with a plan or actions following...remember nearly all successful governmental changes (agree with them or not) were all brought about by or followed massive demonstrations...


191 posted on 07/18/2009 1:47:55 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson
If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?

As a good capitalist I'd sell them T-shirts and bottled water.

192 posted on 07/18/2009 1:48:16 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Get rid of the dirty moderates. Get rid of them,)
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To: mojitojoe

>>They wouldn’t dare use violence against children and families...

Ruby Ridge? Waco? Just sayin’.


193 posted on 07/18/2009 1:48:53 PM PDT by Datahead
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To: seekthetruth

Millions of patriotic peaceful Americans need to serve notice on all Government officials in Washington, DC on 9/12! And yes, they will be in town and they will notice!

The media will be in town...and they will not be able to ignore us...not that many of us...


194 posted on 07/18/2009 1:49:10 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: anniegetyourgun; Jim Robinson; Travis McGee

Are you sure you want my list of those tactics? They require a good deal of underground organization,
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Speaking of underground, there is something a little strange going on behind the scenes. Many of the militia groups have pulled their You Tube videos, closed their accounts and have gone underground. I was reading comments on some of the forums the other night and some the of the military forums were commenting on it and wondering what was up. A few of them mentioned a Constitutional crisis and that the militias may have gone underground to organize. I will go back to those forums and start saving comments. I was hesitant to post them here we know the slime lurks here.


195 posted on 07/18/2009 1:49:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Vor Lady

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


196 posted on 07/18/2009 1:53:24 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Are you sure you want my list of those tactics? They require a good deal of underground organization, and they will require men/women of strong will. In other words, it takes people willing to BE THE RESISTANCE. I fear the worst about us - that we may have lost our ability to resist.
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All good battle plans require a good deal of underground organization. If you let them know your tactics and plans, they can prepare. We need good organization and we need numbers, millions that will agree to stand up and tell this corrupt UNCONSTITUTIONAL government that it needs to stop now. We won’t take it anymore. Don’t be surprised if some liberals join in. Not every Democrat or even every liberal is a drunk on the Koolaid supporter of this government.


197 posted on 07/18/2009 1:53:55 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,”

Anything beyond that scope is Un-American, simple.

Government employees whose duties are not within that scope of purpose should be educated and encouraged to collect a paycheck elsewhere.... riduculed and hounded if they resist.


198 posted on 07/18/2009 1:53:58 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: usconservative

I agree. But I didn’t want to write that scenario cuz I thought Chris Parry would say I was fomening rebellion.

of course, I could only wish


199 posted on 07/18/2009 1:54:13 PM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: wolfcreek
If only it were that simple.

Doesn't anyone speak Metaphor anymore? Point is, it can't go on forever, no scam ever does. They run out of suckers, enablers, creditors, and then it's "lights out." Figuratively speaking. Actually, people don't show up to work if they don't get paid...or if they're paid with worthless paper.

It IS simple.

I'm so tired of listening to bluster about how the gun grabbers are gonna get it when they come to the doorstep, and yet everyone meekly pays their taxes and supports their tyrants, too scared to refuse to pay protection money.

These same sheeple are going to surrender their guns just the way they now surrender their money. And then they'll face their children and grandchildren and say, "I'm sorry, but I had to. It's not that simple..."

Explain to the next generation how we lost America, because it was too complicated to save it.

200 posted on 07/18/2009 1:55:08 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Lady Liberty is Kitty Genovese, right outside our windows.)
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