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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: yoe

I would love to see several million Americans put their Federal taxes in a “lock box” either with a lawyer or a bank
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I think millions already are. Let’s see what happens next April. A Tax revolt is not legal, but what the corrupt government is doing is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. UNCONSTITUTIONAL is FAR worse. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Sooner of later, people are going to wake up and realize that the cesspool in DC is ruining and running the lives of every citizen. Both parties should be appalled and refuse to take it anymore.


161 posted on 07/18/2009 1:26:10 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Actually, nothing should change around the country if this thing is well played and announced way in advance.

The only immediate changes would be in DC. Pinkslips to elected DC politicians from the Governors of each state (should they choose to participate) would happen a for hand.

162 posted on 07/18/2009 1:27:01 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Jim Robinson

bump


163 posted on 07/18/2009 1:27:40 PM PDT by manic4organic (We Are S0 Screwed)
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To: Joan Kerrey

We call them the “Food Nazis”.


164 posted on 07/18/2009 1:28:08 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: Jim Robinson

Here’s a far better plan, one that I’ve been pushing unsuccessfully for over two years:

http://24ahead.com/s/question-authority

Find someone else to come up with questions, find someone else to ask the questions, find someone else to videotape it, and find someone else to upload it and promote it. I’ll even volunteer to edit questions for maximum effectiveness.

All that’s needed is someone with organizing capabilities to pull it together. And, discrediting one national politician on videotape by asking them questions they can’t answer will have a far greater impact than any marches.

And, for those who say that politicians aren’t available, that’s obviously wrong. National politicians make public appearances each and every day. In fact, there’s a disreputable picture of a “tea partier” holding up bunny ears behind the head of Raul Grijalva; if that “partier” had had the intelligence to ask him a real question that would have helped discredit him.


165 posted on 07/18/2009 1:29:51 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

If only it were that simple.

US treasury printing presses are not Barry’s or the countries only source of cash/credit.


166 posted on 07/18/2009 1:31:03 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Travis McGee

There is ONE option that would work. 100 million could do it in the comfort of their homes and it would have a more devastating effect than a million marches on DC. We all know what that ONE thing is. TR


167 posted on 07/18/2009 1:31:07 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: DogBarkTree

11. Build 800 F-22 Raptors.


168 posted on 07/18/2009 1:31:48 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Jim Robinson

If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do? Millions would be great- but a million will do nicely ...

We not only need to get a million people - WE MUST DO SO!

Obama will not be moved by much of anything... But Members of Congress will ... I suggest we call this Operation “LAME DUCK” ... A million or more people assembling in D.C. will scare the pants off of House Members and Senators... And this would be the case for all persuasions - Conservative, Middle of the Road - So Called Moderates - Liberals (perhaps only the die hard Leftist would not be worried).

With the 2010 elections coming up with Primaries in the Spring - we have a GREAT OPPORTUNITY to smack Congress in the head with a 2 by 4.

Imagine this one - two million assembling, cheering, chanting - we hear our designated speakers - we call out certain members of Congress - House Reps and Senators - and point our collective fingers right in their face...

But the real secret is after the main assembly the throng just moves quietly into the streets and form in mass in front of the Capitol Building and the White House and we just SIT IN THE STREET and Do Not Move...

50,000 troops and 20,000 cops could not move a million people from the streets of D.C. They will not risk violence - as long as we are being Civilly Disobedient - Non Violent - there is nothing much to be done...

We could stay there for days - calling on cell phones for more to drive to D.C. — STOP traffic in D.C. for 24-36-48 hours...

Elected officials of all types - even Bureaucrats would stop and being to think twice.

Collectively - by scaring the pants of politicians - scaring them will the fear of not being re-elected - will bring on an early LAME DUCK season for Obama...

Just let the sight of this roll over in your mind... We can do it... Operation Lame Duck.


169 posted on 07/18/2009 1:32:28 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Jim Robinson
The ultimate response is civil war, and the only recourse that is left when those who have appointed themselves the powers of God to tax and spend as they wish refuse to step down peacefully.

We do not need to establish a new government, we need to abolish all who have broken the Constitution by backing this known illegal presidency from serving in any public office for life.

We need to flush the supreme court for interpreting the plain text of the constitution with personal power in mind. We can do that simply because they are incompetent.

We need to find out who is part of this massive scheme to put a Marxist sock puppet in power and execute them as traitors.

We need to establish term limits for all public offices.

We need to abolish the federal banking system.

We need to repeal federal income tax as it is unconstitutional.

Bouncing checks intentionally is fraud and is punishable by criminal law. Congress is NOT above the law no matter how many times they insist they are.

We need to be ready to die for freedom or die in chains. There is no other option before us. Within the first term of this dictator, it will become quite clear the illegality of these men's power grab, and the only question is IF there are enough honest men left in the Congressional Mafia that there remains something to be salvaged of our Country without the people having to rise up in violence. I am hoping and praying, but all I have seen is this District of Corruption push farther and farther trying to find a breaking point.

This next vote will be a key point. Will it be as banana republic as our presidential vote? Or will the people be heard from. If not, I fear for our country.

Yep Jim you got it nailed. This is right where we are. All that is left is for the rest of the country to wake up. When (not if) the economy collapes, there will be no welfare payments. A lot of people are going to starve.

170 posted on 07/18/2009 1:33:23 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wonder what the reactions of the other world powers would be? Would they sit back and watch the show or would they intervene?

My imagination is running wild here.


171 posted on 07/18/2009 1:33:25 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

“I’m afraid the present government would never relinquish it’s power by peaceful means.”
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Well then, we’ll just have to “bring it”.


172 posted on 07/18/2009 1:33:33 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: manc

Absolutely bring your children, grandchildren anyone you can get to go along. They wouldn’t dare use violence against children and families and if they did, the next step is obvious.


173 posted on 07/18/2009 1:34:23 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: mkcc30
"Whatever needs to be done. I would gladly, and literally if need be, march to D.C. Not a threat just a fact."

Sure looking forward to meeting you in DC on 9/11! The Sheraton has rooms available at our great group rate and the National Freeper Convention tickets are on sale! Sign up sooner rather than later!

SEE YOU IN DC!

174 posted on 07/18/2009 1:35:32 PM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: The Duke; Jim Robinson

“I’m concerned about the approach of marching on DC for a few reasons:
1) If it doesn’t bring about change, then energies are wasted.
2) If passion leads to action, then there are no supplies for a sustained action.
3) The “bad guys” would probably not even be in town.”

1. We’ll get more...there is not a finite supply.
2. We’ll need to “get them from the field upon which we are fighting.”
3. Wars are won in the hearts and minds of the people...the “bad guys” are not going to be deterred because they are there. And, if there is ANY common sense left in any Conservative in DC, they will help to manufacture a reason to be there, somehow (fillibuster, motions, delays, Parliamentary actions, etc.)...if they can’t figure that out, they are not on our side and need to go anyway.


175 posted on 07/18/2009 1:35:56 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: wolfcreek

Yeah, I know. We must have a commander in chief at all times.


176 posted on 07/18/2009 1:36:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: seekthetruth; Brytani; Jim Robinson

Are there rooms with two beds available? I tried to change reservations and had trouble.

I need to call them on Monday.

PrissyMissy and I will see you in DC.


177 posted on 07/18/2009 1:37:58 PM PDT by JustAmy (RIP, Staff Sgt Eric James Lindstrom.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; Jim Robinson

Nobody has to lift a finger, to bring down the govt.
It just takes numbers. If enough people refuse to pay their taxes, the govt would have to shut down; like night follows day.
WE gave them the power. WE are supplying these addicts.
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BINGO!!! It would bring them to their knees instantly. It is illegal, but what they are doing is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and that is far worse. Does anyone seriously think the IRS could come after and arrest 150 million people or more people?


178 posted on 07/18/2009 1:38:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: seekthetruth

“This plan is for the United States of America as laid down by our Founding Fathers in the Constitution.”

Right on. Diabolical.


179 posted on 07/18/2009 1:38:37 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: mojitojoe

“They wouldn’t dare use violence against children and families..”

They already do but I understand what you are saying.


180 posted on 07/18/2009 1:38:41 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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