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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: Oldpuppymax

Absolutely!!


121 posted on 07/18/2009 12:56:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

The kommies are awake now:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/18/151114/750


122 posted on 07/18/2009 12:56:48 PM PDT by Califreak (I can't answer that in the abstract)
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To: Jim Robinson

or learn how to establish lemonade or shoeshine stands.


They’ll need business permits for that and USDA inspection of the lemons used and food prep permits and FDA inspection of the lemonade processing. They’ll need a tax permit and an account set up for sales tax collection and remittance and zone permits from the city and the county.

Shoe polish must pass enviromental laws of the city and county.

Currently there is a shortage of workers since most have been terminated so there is a waiting list for all the above processes.

Applications and permits now take about 2 years to process.


123 posted on 07/18/2009 12:58:28 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Winstons Julia

Well, we’re not going to pussyfoot around with these people.

Anyone who wishes to join our effort to throw out the bums (all of them) and reestablish the constitutional limits and bounds for government as established by our founding fathers is welcome.


124 posted on 07/18/2009 12:59:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: DennisR

>>The first thing we need is a limit on how much the Feds can spend.

With all due respect I’d say the FIRST thing that is needed is for the current group of thugs to be stopped. Don’t pass one more bill, don’t propose another bill, don’t draw another breath for all I care... just stop and do no more harm while we set about the work of re-establishing the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Those are two inter-dependent but very distinct tasks.


125 posted on 07/18/2009 12:59:29 PM PDT by Datahead
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent Jim. There is just so much to consider. Looking at this section:

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

What do we do with the laws the Supreme Court have passed that they had no business deciding. Abortion and many other “laws” are laws that should be decided by the individual States.

We need a good constitutional law person to help work out what we can say about the Supreme Court.


126 posted on 07/18/2009 1:00:06 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m all in. Just set a when and where.


127 posted on 07/18/2009 1:00:52 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm concerned about the approach of marching on DC for a few reasons:

1) If it doesn't bring about change, then energies are wasted.

2) If passion leads to action, then there are no supplies for a sustained action.

3) The "bad guys" would probably not even be in town.

I think what is better his a "marshalling of forces" in the form of a "national militia". A full time paramilitary organization that had both full-time and part-time participants, including its own internal "court system" and intelligence apparatus. An organization that trains and plans on both the tactical and strategic level, while constructively engaging the US military whenever and where ever possible.

Once a person becomes part of a military organization there comes into existence a certain "esprit de corps" that can transcend one's survival instinct. One's confidence grows when taught to defend oneself by those with expertise.

Of course militas have formed spontaneously before in the US, but somehow I think we may be at some sort of "critical mass" where such organizations can start to bring about positive change.

Just my two cents.

128 posted on 07/18/2009 1:01:40 PM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: Jim Robinson
Unemployment will have to be dealt with at the state and local levels. Guess a whole shitpot load of ex government workers will be desperately seeking to learn a trade or learn how to establish lemonade or shoeshine stands

If we would eventually have better tax and trade laws we could once again become a manufacturing country and there would be plenty of jobs for stuff made in America and we'd finally be able to afford them if we weren't taxed to death.

129 posted on 07/18/2009 1:03:07 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Travis McGee
P!ss-poor attitude for someone who has www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com as his/her tagline.
130 posted on 07/18/2009 1:04:03 PM PDT by rvoitier ("The law allows what honor forbids." -- C. C. Colton)
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To: Califreak

At least they got his name right !


131 posted on 07/18/2009 1:04:11 PM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

You can’t wait for April 15th. The money comes out of your paycheck every payday. Either raise your dependents to 10 or more or quit have a peoples work strike like they did in Poland.


132 posted on 07/18/2009 1:04:45 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Jim Robinson
Mr JimRob--we have a start already in the "Million Man Tea Party" that we are joining during our Freeper event in Sept.

Surely there's some way that we could parlay that into something even bigger---

Whatever, I'm with you all the way!

133 posted on 07/18/2009 1:04:53 PM PDT by basil
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To: TrueFact

Don’t know if the Supreme Court should be fired at this time. But we should definitely reaffirm their operating parameters and constitutional guidelines and possibly assign term limits less than life. Would be a very difficult task to nominate and confirm all nine justices at once.


134 posted on 07/18/2009 1:07:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Travis McGee; Jim Robinson
“That’s what we’re up against. I’m not optimistic.”

The uncertainty of the reactions from LEO, Military, etc. would be a major sticking point for many.

We must have as many of them as possible aware of what's going to happen and know where their loyalties lie. Otherwise, this thing could get ugly quick.

IMO, the FedGov, NWO crowd and others are attempting to goat us in to this very situation. We need to plan and step carefully including letting them know we're coming well ahead of time.

135 posted on 07/18/2009 1:07:09 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Count me in..... I would time it the weekend just after the Dims in Congress.......... put it in writing.


136 posted on 07/18/2009 1:07:38 PM PDT by Marty62
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To: Earthdweller
Revoke all our pledges of monies to other countries and the IMF(they never did a d@man thing for us anyway), then send the money to payoff anything we owe.

Great idea. There is probably money to be had somewhere. We probably are richer than we know. Once we get control back we may be allright and be able to work out the debt or call in what is due us.

137 posted on 07/18/2009 1:07:49 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: GeronL
Maybe a 5-million gun-owner March on DC would be in order if things get bad enough., I wonder if the media would ignore it?

Maybe a 5-million armed gun-owner march on DC would be in order if things get bad enough RIGHT NOW.

There, fixed it.

138 posted on 07/18/2009 1:11:19 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Jim Robinson
How to retire the federal debt

Since a large percent of the current federal debt (not including the stimulus package) is actually entitlement payments promised by federal programs, transfer those obligations to the states along with cutting taxes. Let the states figure out the best way to manage the entitlements.

139 posted on 07/18/2009 1:12:01 PM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: theFIRMbss
I do not see this as a plan for the Republican or Democrat or any political party!

This plan is for the United States of America as laid down by our Founding Fathers in the Constitution.

140 posted on 07/18/2009 1:12:57 PM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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