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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: GeronL

“Forget the park or the mall, we will pack the entire federal district if we had millions. For one day, at least, we would own DC...and *sigh* MSNBC anchors making sexual jokes....and a paragraph about it would appear in the NY Times on page B-7. IMO.”

Absolutely wrong. That kind of gridlock could NOT be swept under the rug and if it were, it would backfire bigtime because the blogs and the radios would force them into coughing it up...this is what happened with the Swift Boaters...the MSM tried to bury itr but couldn’t...the drumbeat got too loud...


81 posted on 07/18/2009 12:22:18 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I am totally with you on this, I’ve been saying it for months. DEFUND the beast!
As someone else pointed out, since the Feds can print money anytime they want, why do they need yours?


82 posted on 07/18/2009 12:23:19 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: Jim Robinson

“The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.”

Diabolical...


83 posted on 07/18/2009 12:24:42 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson
If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?

Get the franchise and permits for the hot dog trucks, the "weenie wagons," along the route of march, and donate the profits to FR.

(I'm always the Capitalist!)

84 posted on 07/18/2009 12:24:45 PM PDT by MindBender26 ("Ok, so I screwed up... again. I'm 65. What are they going to do, send me back to Vietnam again?)
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To: Jim Robinson
There is much to do before a march on Washington, Jim. And, no - I don't mean call/write/fax our reps and have teaparties. They love it when we do that - it keeps us in our box, and they can so easily ignore it. We keep using old tactics when the game has completely changed.

As I've been saying here on FR for 8 months now - ALL THINGS HAVE CHANGED - NOTHING IS THE SAME - WE AREN'T SIMPLY IN "A CYCLE." Since that is the case, I am convinced we need new tactics...that are actually old tactics.

Are you sure you want my list of those tactics? They require a good deal of underground organization, and they will require men/women of strong will. In other words, it takes people willing to BE THE RESISTANCE. I fear the worst about us - that we may have lost our ability to resist.

85 posted on 07/18/2009 12:24:57 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jim Robinson
The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

Do you really want Hillary to be the interim President?

Alternative: An assembly of the governors shall be convened to for the purpose of selecting an interim President and VP.

86 posted on 07/18/2009 12:25:04 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Travis McGee

Neither am I.


87 posted on 07/18/2009 12:26:04 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jim Robinson

Oh my dear God. Tears are welling up in my eyes as I write this. NOW WE HAVE THE START OF SOMETHING! That usually quiet voice in me is yelling that this is right! God bless you Jim and keep you safe and watch over each of us as we begin earnestly to take back this country!


88 posted on 07/18/2009 12:26:28 PM PDT by Datahead
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To: CyberAnt

Actually, the millions who vote should only be voting for their representatives in the House. The senators are elected by the state legislatures. The president by the electoral college. The state legislators are of course elected by the people, but that still removes the senators from direct election. The senators represent the interests of the sovereign state governments.

And apply strict term limits to all and restrict their staff budgets to reduce the power bases. Perhaps even reduce the jobs of all legislators to part time positions. The fewer days that they serve in office the less damage they can do.

We don’t need or want all these millions of pages of legislation and regulations the churn out.

Government should be restricted. Freedom should be unlimited.


89 posted on 07/18/2009 12:26:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: JDoutrider

Absolutely. The Bill of Rights must be completely restored.


90 posted on 07/18/2009 12:28:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Flint

Amen.


91 posted on 07/18/2009 12:30:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ve been thinking. Always dangerous.

We keep talking about “the Government”, but actions are taken by individuals in the government. Legislation, like the health care bill, are provided by endless lobbyists or congressmen.

I think it is high time we identify these individuals.

It’s hard to run “government” out of town on a rail.

It would not be so difficult to run individuals with catastrophic ideas out on that same rail.

It is time to put a stop to the anonymity of “government”. It is time to name names. Hold those responsible to the fire. Time to know who the real enemies are. I suspect most are lobbyists who pay to play. If I am wrong, tell me how.


92 posted on 07/18/2009 12:30:30 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: CyberAnt
I'm not sure in the current climate, that anything but force is going to remove these tyrants. Thanks to Al Gore, that opened the door, and showed the world, just how easy it is to send our system into upheaval.....especially when you have no regard or honor. This monster/madman HATES long standing tradition and his intent is to NEVER leave. I don't believe we'll see another free election.
93 posted on 07/18/2009 12:32:17 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The Light at the end of the Tunnel, is the headlamp of an oncoming Train)
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To: Jim Robinson

I love the passion, but I think secession is more practical. There are tens of millions of “Americans” who simply don’t share our values and we’d be better to separate ourselves.


94 posted on 07/18/2009 12:34:16 PM PDT by ccruse456
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To: Jim Robinson

As second amendment rights have been routinely placed under assault by unscrupulous, criminally inspired, anti-liberty forces, we hereby reaffirm that the absolute right of law abiding American citizens to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Also, TERM LIMITS!!! US President—2 terms of 4 years each. US Senator—2 terms of 6 years each. US Congressman—4 terms of 2 years each. No other political office of any kind can be held for more than 8 years. NO ONE WHO HAS HELD AND POLITICAL OFFICE FOR 8 YEARS MAY RUN FOR OFFICE OF ANY KIND AGAIN. NO ONE WHO HAS HELD ELECTED POLITICAL OFFICE MAY HOLD ANY JOB WHICH INVOLVES POLITICS, POLITICAL POLICY MAKING, OR MAINTAIN ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH POLITICAL FACTIONS.


95 posted on 07/18/2009 12:35:20 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, I didn’t mean to offend you.

I’ll certainly go elsewhere, if that’s what you recommend.

As I said, I’m as concerned about this as you are...the problem we have is that, from research I’ve been doing and observations I’ve been making, while Free Republic is a large influence in the political internet spectrum, there are so many people who are simply struggling to find enough hours in the day to work, take care of family and eek out a tiny bit of relaxation time, that as a society, we’ve lost touch with the Founder’s Intent. It has been lost as we’ve simply gotten used to BOHICA from the government. And we come home and watch the news (increasingly LESS of it) that they decide is “worthy”.

Sometimes it strikes me how small the Constitution is. You can carry it around in your breast pocket. It’s “da bomb” as far as the nation goes. But most Americans probably don’t have a copy. They don’t understand checks and balances and how important they are. Many are too young to understand the importance of State’s Rights. You ask them where the “government” is located and they are not going to say, “the state capital in Springfield” or “City Hall”
they are going to say “Washington DC”!

So, we have our founding document, that can be carried with you and sometimes it boggles my mind wondering what size of building it would take now to hold all the laws, regulations and red tape created in the time since it was written.

As you have gathered, I live in Illinois. This is where freedom goes to die. We had a governor that was positively rotten and he’s not in jail yet. He may have sold our senator’s seat, but somehow, we’re stuck with that guy. They’ve simply TOLD US that we can’t afford an election. Still, they’re trying to come up with clever ways to tax us. If THIS isn’t taxation without representation, I don’t know what is. But you can’t fight city hall. Not even at the ballot box because there’s “not enough money”.

I think people can “feel” that something is wrong. I just finished “Dutch” and I believe we are at a time similar to the one that ushered Reagan and the Republicans into power. I also got to watch a PBS documentary on Reagan that was interesting, but sometimes the observation a person makes is not the one intended by the narrative. When Reagan made a speech or gave a press conference, the media acted like ravening wolves...positively bellowing angry questions at him.

I contrast this now with Obama’s appearances. No one’s bellowing at him or asking him to defend himself. If the Fox News reporter asks a difficult question, the blogosphere goes nuts calling that reporter disrespectful.

This is a sign of scary times. The media controls the information we get, and is NOT holding Obama to his promises. There’s no constant repetition of the speech in which he made the promise (read my lips). No one yells out to have their question answered. They are puppets and it is shameful.

And too many good people are falling for it. The right needs its own “Michael Moore”...to point out how LARGE and powerful government has gotten and to lead we the people back to the truth. With humor and simplicity.

But what we really need, and it ain’t me, is our own “Reagan”. We need someone whip smart and press savvy, with a sense of humor and speech that is skilled. We don’t need just another politician. We need that individual who can truly address what is going horribly wrong, because we FEEL it.

We need thinkers who will abandon the idea of “business as usual” and “wheeling and dealing” and who will assure us he or she will TAKE THE REIGNS...no focus group needed.

Maybe the Heritage Foundation would be helpful in producing something enlightening...or then again, maybe an entirely NEW group needs to be founded. Shoveit.org?


96 posted on 07/18/2009 12:37:18 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: sonic109

Happens to everybody.


97 posted on 07/18/2009 12:37:23 PM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Fifty to seventy million actual Americans must join in the march. All elected Washington politicians would be removed from office and escorted out of DC. They would return at their peril. This would clearly be an excuse for some throughout the nation to begin the rioting—in other words, LOOTING—which is traditional for those who have spent their lives wanting something for nothing. Looters would have to be shot on sight.


98 posted on 07/18/2009 12:41:23 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent. Don’t forget the Supreme Court....


99 posted on 07/18/2009 12:42:52 PM PDT by TrueFact
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To: Glenn

>>It is time to put a stop to the anonymity of “government”. It is time to name names.

You are so very right!


100 posted on 07/18/2009 12:43:20 PM PDT by Datahead
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