Posted on 05/06/2009 7:47:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I hope I am proven wrong.
I hope for the sake of our country that I and many other concerned citizens across the country are looked upon as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided individuals who chased a bad rumor based on lies and distortions.
The reason I hope to be thought wrong (although well-intentioned) is because the price of being right about the constitutional requirements to be president not being met by the current occupant of the Oval Office is too disturbing to be imagined.
If, in fact, Barack Obama does not meet the requirements set out by the U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section I, it would throw this country into a constitutional crisis. Vice President Joe Biden would, obviously, become President Biden. The harrowing part of this taking place is that every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.
Full-moon time? I know, I know; I sound like a raving lunatic. So where do I draw my conclusions that this is even a valid issue to entertain?
Let's review what's been accepted as "fact" by the mainstream press and the vast majority of Americans: Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Stanley Ann Dunham, 18, and Barack Obama Sr., 25.
Now let's look at some of the questions challenging these accepted "facts":
Concerned citizens across the United States since well before the November election have questioned Barack Obama's "natural born" qualification for the presidency. From sea to shining sea, at least 18 lawsuits with plaintiffs including a former presidential candidate, a former deputy attorney general, state legislators and retired and active duty members of the military, are attempting to compel him to verify his citizenship.
Candidate Obama's own Web site, fightthesmears.com, posted a "Certification of Live Birth," which, according to the Web site, proves that Obama is in fact a natural born U.S. citizen. What the Web site won't tell you, however, is that a "Certification of Live Birth" is not a birth certificate, and that at the time, the state of Hawaii allowed foreign-born children of U.S. citizens (Stanley Ann Dunham) to have their births registered with this document based on a statement of only one relative. The obvious question must be asked: If Obama has an original "long form" birth certificate issued on the day of his birth by the state of Hawaii, why would he also have a "Certification of Live Birth"? It would not be necessary. Critics have called upon President Obama to just give the state of Hawaii his permission to release his original "long form" birth certificate. The "long form" birth certificate would include all the pertinent information about his birth: name of the hospital, name and signature of the attending physician and a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department. This simple action by President Obama would immediately end all speculation about his citizenship and the reasons for the various lawsuits. Instead, President Obama is spending time and money hiring lawyers to fight these lawsuits. Why?
Why doesn't the mainstream press cover these lawsuits? I mean, in 2004, Dan Rather did a bang up job covering something a lot less important. Rather had "authentic" memos critical of President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard service record. Yet there are some legitimate questions about the constitutional eligibility of our president, and yet not one single major press outlet is covering it. Part of the reason is that this issue has supposedly settled by the independent authority on Obama's birth certificate, FactCheck.org. Yet on their Web site, FactCheck.org states:
"The document is a 'certification of birth,' also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response."
So the independent authority on this question has admitted that they have not seen the original long-form birth certificate. And the questions remain.
I sincerely hope that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, in 1961 and therefore meets the constitutional requirements to be president. If not, our Constitution must be followed and procedures put in place for future elections wherein all candidates on the ballot must prove they meet the requirements set forth by the law of the land, the U.S. Constitution.
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Peter Aparicio is a resident of Victoria and a government teacher at Memorial High School.
The guy with the beard and glasses ?
It looked to me as though he might have been about to do that when Pelosi stands up and starts clapping and the crowd joins her. When they pan the crowd, the guy you mentioned is holding up his hand. Was he trying to object?
I really don't understand the process here and I might be misreading and misunderstanding it, but that's what it looks like to me.
Wow this is a great point that I've never considered. Why indeed?
Wow! Now that you mention it.........
Believe me, it’s long been a nagging concern of mine as well.
I read the Constitutional language as:
a member of the Senate and a member of the House have the opportunity to voice an objection to the electoral vote.
VP Cheney did not ask the question that I saw.
I’m just not clear as to whether Vice President must asked if there ARE any objections, or if anyone with objections can just voice them.
I now wonder why that hand in the crowd was raised.
Fuggedeboutit. Even if they had all those antique implements, they still don't know how to make a decent forgery. ZERO can have a dozen forged birth certificates made, and it will not absolve him of the original document fraud -- the anniversary of which is next month.
BECAUSE, Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" DOES NOT EXIST and never did.
That's the ONLY answer!
We haven’t forgotten. Remember that ZERO has British citizenship at birth, and that alone should have disqualified him as a NBC.
Yes.
I still wonder how he applied for his educational student financial aid: as a foreign student ?
We've only been hearing that rubbish for an entire year now, but don't worry, the odds are still good for someone else to dredge up the Gotcha" scenario once again.
So true, I’ll also take goofy over dictator.
Great photos on your about page. I miss Reagan.
Nobody has ever seen it. Not the Governor. Not the Director of Health. Not the State Registrar.
The only thing publicly stated by Hawaii was the one issued by Health Director Chyiome Fukino, that there exists in Hawaii's filing system, a record -- which could either be a computer record or a paper record -- indicating that Hawaii has Obama's original birth certificate.
Whether or not there actually exists a physical, authentic, original birth certificate for Obama has never been validated. There could easily be an empty envelope or file folder sitting in a vault in the DOH's basement, with the label reading ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOR [BARACK/BARRY] [SOETORO/OBAMA]
Besides the BC issue there is the question of whether he was adopted by the Indonesian guy & if he reestablished his U.S. citizenship as an adult.
The other possible answer is that Obama had a name change from Barry Soetoro to Barak Obama when he was adopted by his grand parents (Indonesia law didn’t allow his mother to have custody in a divorce).
Original Birth certificate lists original name, adopted birth certificate list Barry Soetoro, amended second adoption birth certificate lists Barak Obama, and Grand Parents as adoptive parents, amended COLB lists mother and father as parents for election cycle
One thing I might add, we have seen pictures of Obama and his Father at Hawaii’s airport, it is possible that Obama’s Father picked him up in Indonesia and brought him to Hawaii to be adopted by his grand parents,because under Muslim law in Indonesia his mother could not get custody of him.
He was adopted by his grand parents as legal guardians and his mother returned to Indonesia.
what do you make of this?:
Executive Order 13489. Obama bans access to his records the first day in office with this executive order
Posted on May 7th, 2009 by David-Crockett
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=1629
I’ve come to believe O bow ma was not born in December 1961, was is not even the son of the Kenyan, Barack Obama! The CoLB is a misdirection the obamanoids keep giving credence to because they cannot have the truth surface as it would not only destroy the well-fabricated deceit of his history, it would expose the criminality of this bastard. Sadly, black people don’t care so long as they have their mythos.
Section 1 of the 25th Amendment: "In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President."
Manner of succession has already been defined.
Cheney was not allow the moment to ask if any had objection! That’s what Pelosi’s instant clap was designed to prevent, the asking for objections. Watch the replay. Open your mind and eyes.
OK, 25th Amendment: "In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President."
Research done. How hard was that?
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