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Hoping Obama's place of birth truly was in Hawaii
The Victoria Advocate ^ | May 5, 2009 | Peter Aparicio

Posted on 05/06/2009 7:47:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I hope I am proven wrong.

I hope for the sake of our country that I and many other concerned citizens across the country are looked upon as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided individuals who chased a bad rumor based on lies and distortions.

The reason I hope to be thought wrong (although well-intentioned) is because the price of being right about the constitutional requirements to be president not being met by the current occupant of the Oval Office is too disturbing to be imagined.

If, in fact, Barack Obama does not meet the requirements set out by the U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section I, it would throw this country into a constitutional crisis. Vice President Joe Biden would, obviously, become President Biden. The harrowing part of this taking place is that every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.

Full-moon time? I know, I know; I sound like a raving lunatic. So where do I draw my conclusions that this is even a valid issue to entertain?

Let's review what's been accepted as "fact" by the mainstream press and the vast majority of Americans: Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Stanley Ann Dunham, 18, and Barack Obama Sr., 25.

Now let's look at some of the questions challenging these accepted "facts":

Concerned citizens across the United States since well before the November election have questioned Barack Obama's "natural born" qualification for the presidency. From sea to shining sea, at least 18 lawsuits with plaintiffs including a former presidential candidate, a former deputy attorney general, state legislators and retired and active duty members of the military, are attempting to compel him to verify his citizenship.

Candidate Obama's own Web site, fightthesmears.com, posted a "Certification of Live Birth," which, according to the Web site, proves that Obama is in fact a natural born U.S. citizen. What the Web site won't tell you, however, is that a "Certification of Live Birth" is not a birth certificate, and that at the time, the state of Hawaii allowed foreign-born children of U.S. citizens (Stanley Ann Dunham) to have their births registered with this document based on a statement of only one relative. The obvious question must be asked: If Obama has an original "long form" birth certificate issued on the day of his birth by the state of Hawaii, why would he also have a "Certification of Live Birth"? It would not be necessary. Critics have called upon President Obama to just give the state of Hawaii his permission to release his original "long form" birth certificate. The "long form" birth certificate would include all the pertinent information about his birth: name of the hospital, name and signature of the attending physician and a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department. This simple action by President Obama would immediately end all speculation about his citizenship and the reasons for the various lawsuits. Instead, President Obama is spending time and money hiring lawyers to fight these lawsuits. Why?

Why doesn't the mainstream press cover these lawsuits? I mean, in 2004, Dan Rather did a bang up job covering something a lot less important. Rather had "authentic" memos critical of President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard service record. Yet there are some legitimate questions about the constitutional eligibility of our president, and yet not one single major press outlet is covering it. Part of the reason is that this issue has supposedly settled by the independent authority on Obama's birth certificate, FactCheck.org. Yet on their Web site, FactCheck.org states:

"The document is a 'certification of birth,' also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response."

So the independent authority on this question has admitted that they have not seen the original long-form birth certificate. And the questions remain.

I sincerely hope that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, in 1961 and therefore meets the constitutional requirements to be president. If not, our Constitution must be followed and procedures put in place for future elections wherein all candidates on the ballot must prove they meet the requirements set forth by the law of the land, the U.S. Constitution.

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Peter Aparicio is a resident of Victoria and a government teacher at Memorial High School.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: akaobama; bho2009; bho44; biden; birthcertificate; bo; certifigate; choomgang; colb; constitution; foreignborn; hawaii; illegitmate; kenya; obama; obamatruthfile; unconstitutional; usurper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If one believes that all is a part of God's plan and that "pride goeth before a fall" and other such homilies and Proverbs are true, one can see that obama and the demonrats have been given the rope to hang themselves and the lever triggering the trap door is set to be pulled.

Many of us pray that somehow God will intervene to alter our course and save us from our ways. And others who don't have faith or belief, none the less are committed to bringing about the same thing. These are certainly interesting times.

161 posted on 05/07/2009 7:10:19 AM PDT by GBA
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To: All

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Take a look at this. If you didn’t know it was Malcolm X, you’d swear it was Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENHP89mLWOY

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162 posted on 05/07/2009 7:21:26 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Payback’s a b!tch.


163 posted on 05/07/2009 7:21:36 AM PDT by GBA
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To: john mirse

Did you see the footage of the Electoral College vote where someone was going to object, but Pelosi didn’t give them a chance and declared obama the prez?


164 posted on 05/07/2009 7:25:36 AM PDT by GBA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the one area everyone keeps also forgetting about, besides with his birth certificate, is his little trip he made to Pakistan from Indonesia.

If Nobama was of legal age, and he flew from Indonesia to Pakistan on an INDONESIAN passport, he has then also given up any US Citizenship he may have had.

Even though my parents were born in the Netherlands, and I decided I wanted to fly on a Dutch Passport, I would have to give up my US Passport.


165 posted on 05/07/2009 7:33:47 AM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: holyscroller

My scenario guess is that the supposed copy O bow ma claimed to have discovered among papers in his gran’s attic will be what surfaces, giving him plausible deniability if the forgery is outed ... ‘he took it to be genuine never expecting gran to fake his history!’


166 posted on 05/07/2009 7:45:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: GingisK

“How could anyone in good conscious even run for POTUS knowing they did not meet constitutional requirements?
Simply by not having a conscience. Just like any dictator, crook, Marxist, or leftist-extremist.”

Barack Obama shows all the signs of a malignant narcissist, simple as that. Google it and you shall see...


167 posted on 05/07/2009 7:46:36 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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To: atomicweeder

Why do people think that the father is Frank “the commie pedophile” Davis?

If the father is in question, it could be anyone.


168 posted on 05/07/2009 7:47:24 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: dalereed; katiekins1
“School teachers are not smart!”

How about SOME school teachers are not smart? Only say this because I am one, and I do not consider myself dumb!

“Those that can do, those that can’t teach!!!!”

Just two questions: Who taught you? What do you do?

“Arrest and deport the illegal alien from Kenya!!!”
I am all for it! But so far the place of his birth is not known. If Obama was born on US soil he would be a US citizen but not a “natural born” US citizen because his father was not a US citizen at the time of Obama’s birth.

169 posted on 05/07/2009 7:50:09 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: tioga

O bow ma moved forward his scehdule for Pres__ential power/taking over America when it became obvious that the one obstacle who could out him was about to pass away. He successfully sequestered her until she conveniently died and opened his gate.


170 posted on 05/07/2009 7:51:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: astounded
...malignant narcissist...

Fitting and proper. For 0bama, it has a Presidential ring to it.

171 posted on 05/07/2009 7:55:30 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Given his performance over the first 100 days, I think it is safe to say that Obama! is not an American-born citizen. He clearly has no allegiance to anything that would be considered the America of the first 230+ years, and is even fairly open about this fact (in his own way). But the scary thing is that many in his admin who are citizens of this country hold these same views. The worst elements of the Baby Boom generation are now in charge, and it isn't pretty.
172 posted on 05/07/2009 8:34:44 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well written for sure.


173 posted on 05/07/2009 8:44:53 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: astounded
Obama, Oprah, and the Guru: Malignant Narcissism
174 posted on 05/07/2009 8:53:06 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Lumper20
“When a man hides his records he does so for a reason.”

That is the smoking gun for all of this discussion. Obama has sealed his birth records, his school records, and anything and everything else that can incriminate him.

Anyone who has nothing to hide in these areas would never think to do this...for it would not be NECESSARY!

Obama has more than one thing to hide, in my opinion. He knows he is Frank Marshall Davis, Jr. and not Barack Obama, Jr. But, being the later has opened up more doors for him.

The passport question is being hidden. I am sure that there were records of his citizenship in the passport office, but they have probably been altered, too.

His college and law school records have been sealed. Why?

From the beginning, I have looked at him with suspicion for many reasons. Something about him simply speaks of untruth. My instincts are usually right, and I trust my instincts more than I would ever trust him.

175 posted on 05/07/2009 9:07:16 AM PDT by Swede Girl
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To: happygrl; AlanGreenSpam; LUV W

176 posted on 05/07/2009 9:12:15 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Eligibility Lawsuits

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?page_id=1518


177 posted on 05/07/2009 9:27:17 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: GBA

I don’t see that in the video of the event. Am I missing something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaE5NGgLtxo


178 posted on 05/07/2009 9:30:30 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: cartoonistx

Religion was not something listed on birth certificates for the state of HI at that time. If he was indeed born ouside of the country to an unmarried mother he would be qualified under the immigration laws(immigration laws which were in effect as far back as the 1930’s IIRC) at that time to serve as President of the U.S.


179 posted on 05/07/2009 9:57:20 AM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: STARWISE
Pelosi stands up at 3:05 and starts clapping, interrupting Dick Chaney. Check out the guy (from Ohio?) with his hand raised at approximately 3:23 or so. Is he raising his hand to object?
180 posted on 05/07/2009 9:58:04 AM PDT by GBA
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