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'The Birthers' Continue to Hound Obama
AOL News ^ | Mar 1 09

Posted on 03/01/2009 1:00:07 PM PST by Rennes Templar

March 1) - Ever since Barack Obama became a prominent political fixture in the country, he has encountered a fair number of rumors and smears concerning him and his family.

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A lawsuit filed in California by a group called the United States Justice Foundation seeks records from Occidental College, where Obama attended school for a period, in order to verify his nationality.

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For the record, officials in Hawaii declared last October that there was no doubt Obama was born in the state. Officials verified that the health department holds the commander in chief's original birth certificate. But others are still undeterred.

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Get the full story about the Birthers at Politico.com to find out about the group's possible impact on the White House.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.aol.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
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To: FrdmLvr
And the Big 0 himself tends to get real jumpy about this stuff and then lashes out. I think they should just keep nipping away at him. Who knows what he might inadvertently blurt out.

He lashed out 3 different times in 2008 that was seen on TV news, which did not draw any comment from anyone in the Main Stream Press.

21 posted on 03/01/2009 1:22:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Rennes Templar

Show the nation your documentation Obama and the rumors will go away. What do you have to hide in your college, birth, adoption and passport files buddy?


22 posted on 03/01/2009 1:23:14 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: papasmurf

Note the wording. They do not say he was born in Hawaii...only that his original birth certificate is on file. That doesn’t tell us where that birth certificate was from, does it?


23 posted on 03/01/2009 1:27:37 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: Red Steel

And there are the associated questions like: Real name, father, religion, citizenship, college attendance status, college transcripts and work, passport to Pakistan and political records plus the latest having to do with funding his campaign. Hang tough Red.


24 posted on 03/01/2009 1:33:56 PM PST by mcshot (OMG! Is this the best they had to offer in the best interest of our Country?)
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To: Rennes Templar

AOL really stinks! and it’s surprizing that they think they can cover up ZERO’s Major Fraud Against AMERICA and OUR CONSTITUTION!! This is NOT going away! Just Show US ZERO’S LEGAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! it only costs $10.50!! ZERO CANT!!
THATS THE STORY!! HE is Fraud:-( unfortunately for AMERICA!


25 posted on 03/01/2009 1:37:22 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Great President George W. Bush)
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To: Redleg Duke

Precisely!


26 posted on 03/01/2009 1:39:17 PM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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To: SERKIT

We got to look at Al Gore’s grades and the fact that he flunked out of both law school and divinity school. And Al was the smartest man in the world.


27 posted on 03/01/2009 1:42:49 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: papasmurf

Thanks for posting Papa as I had misplaced.


28 posted on 03/01/2009 1:51:59 PM PST by mcshot (OMG! Is this the best they had to offer in the best interest of our Country?)
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To: Rennes Templar

Alinsky rule #13: identify, isolate, freeze and escalate.


29 posted on 03/01/2009 1:55:29 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: stylin19a

And what does the original birth certificate say? By whom was it issued? Taking that statement at face value, for all we know the health department could be holding the commander in chief’s original birth certificate issued by the Kenyan government. The statement is full of implication but contains nothing definitive. Gotta’ watch these guys, I’m telling you.


30 posted on 03/01/2009 1:59:28 PM PST by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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To: LottieDah; Red Steel

The “birth certificate” is a red herring; he probably has a forged long form birth certificate (38 entries for information, including hospital and attending physician) all ready to go.

The real issue — natural born Citizen. Both parents must be U.S. citizens at the time of baby’s birth AND baby must be born on U.S. soil for their child to be a natural born citizen. Parents can be naturalized, native born, or natural born, but they must be U.S. citizens for their child to be eligible to become President of the U.S.A.

President Obama’s father, a British citizen, registered his son as a British citizen shortly after birth. Hence, Obama II is not a natural born citizen. If (and I use that word hesitently) he was born in Hawaii, he can claim to be a “native born” citizen but ineligible to run for President.

FYI — records from Occidental recently came to light that prove a student from Indonesia named Barry Soetoro accepted financial aid as a foreign student.

When living in Indonesia with his mom and stepdad, Obama was registered at a school as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen and Muslim.

Here are excellent analyses of the “natural born Citizen” question.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/11/
“Natural Born Citizens: Or How to Beat a Subject to Death with a Stick”, by Judah Benjamin, is a good place to start.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalties-pt-1/
“Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, Part 1”, by Judah Benjamin

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalties-pt-2/
“Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, Part 2”, by Judah Benjamin


31 posted on 03/01/2009 2:04:42 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: papasmurf

Well, what this says is that he was born and that there is a birth certificate and that it has been seen by Dr. Fukino.

It is just a birth certificate stating where he was born, to whom and showing some foot print or other unique ID. If there is nothing to hide then why not produce it to the SCOTUS or some other bi-partisan group?

This stinks, keep up the pressure.


32 posted on 03/01/2009 2:04:44 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: eyeamok

AOL urinalists seem to ape their MSM counterparts, assuring us from their lofty perch that what is patently not true is true.


33 posted on 03/01/2009 2:06:48 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: Mouton

“I wonder if anyone has checked the passport records of the zero’s alleged mother.”

Yes, supposedly they were acquired through FOIA.

Stanley Ann D. Obama was outside of the United States at the time of Barack Hussein Obama II’s birth. She did not re-enter the U.S. until August 8, 1961, four days after he was born. Sorry I can’t remember who found this information and therefore can’t supply a link, but it came to light a couple days after the election this past November.

Additional info: Stanley Ann enrolled in the University of Washington, at Seattle, WA, for the 1961 Fall semester. She majored in Mathematics, graduating in 1963. She is supposed to have married Lolo Soetoro sometime in 1963-1964 after procuring a divorce from Obama Sr. I don’t know if the Obama divorce papers have yet come to light, but I do know that the Soetoro divorce papers, filed in Hawaii in the early 1980’s, did make it into public purview. Those state that Stanley Ann and Lolo had two children, a son and a daughter. This indicates that Lolo adopted Barack H. Obama II when he was still an infant.


34 posted on 03/01/2009 2:20:02 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: Rennes Templar
'The Birthers' Continue to Hound Obama

He can end it quickly and simply by releasing his original Birth Certificate.

35 posted on 03/01/2009 2:22:59 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Faith Manages.)
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To: papasmurf

Maybe someone should ask Fukino if they also have Burdock Obama’s half-sister’s BC on file. She was not born there, but has a Certificate Of Live Birth also from Hawaii. At least that’s what I’ve read. Am I wrong?


36 posted on 03/01/2009 2:24:42 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SatinDoll

“She did not re-enter the U.S. until August 8, 1961, four days after he was born.”
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i remember reading that, probably on the same thread as you did.

Strange how those facts seemed to disappear from websites after it was posted here...


37 posted on 03/01/2009 2:25:17 PM PST by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Uh, they merged with Time Warner, publishers of Time Magazine and countless other liberal magazines.

Why are you bummed they aren’t honest? It’s not in their nature.


38 posted on 03/01/2009 2:37:27 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Who is now in charge of the "Office of the President-Elect"?)
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To: SatinDoll
The “birth certificate” is a red herring; he probably has a forged long form birth certificate (38 entries for information, including hospital and attending physician) all ready to go.

Maybe, but Obama would have to switch it with the one they have on file in Hawaii which needs conspirators to break in or do an inside job. Hawaii may also have backup certified copies of all birth certificates and other supporting documenting evidence in another location, which would have to be taken into consideration.

I agree. Obama is not a natural born citizen since he inherited British/Kenyan citizenship at birth.

39 posted on 03/01/2009 2:42:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: SatinDoll
What's further curious is Obama is ready to cut a deal; "TO TALK 'GLOBAL NEW DEAL' WITH UK PM. Obama knows that the UK may have evidence of his Kenyan birth so he bribes them by throwing money at the UK to keep quit about his origins.

He has courted the Hawaiian governor the same way by berrying gifts.

See the pattern.

40 posted on 03/01/2009 3:00:48 PM PST by Red Steel
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