Posted on 01/19/2009 10:45:03 AM PST by Sammy67
US Army report states that America may be forced to intervene in Mexico to prevent the country from collapsing at the hands of organised crime and drug cartels.
The report compiled by the army’s highest command has placed Mexico alongside Pakistan as possible failed states of the future. The report states: “Two large and important states bear consideration for rapid and sudden collapse: Pakistan and Mexico.”
Mexico has a population of 110 million and shares a two thousand mile border with America. It also is next to the smuggling routes linking the US with the drug-growing areas of South America such as Columbia, which is still the world’s biggest source of cocaine.
Mexico already provides America with more migrants than any other country and would be the obvious destination for massive refugees if the country descended into civil war. The report states: “Any descent by Mexico into chaos would
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The Alamo. Remember it.
Yo, totally!
Yes, especially if he has to draft a couple million college age idiots that voted for him to "git'er done"!!!
My wife is from Mexico (and is here entirely legally, and is now a citizen who voted against Obama - just to set the record straight from the beginning). Her entire extended family lives in Mexico City, and several are fairly tight with some pretty important people there.
I have heard of no problems out of the usual, except for complaints about the peso having lost a lot of purchasing power lately. I also live in South Texas, and the several-times-a-week dust-up between gangs (and occasional shooting of police on both sides of the border) is on a par with what it has been for the past few years.
Pardon me for "thinking."
Yessss! So let's form an NGO or some other BS civilian mission, and get paid to take over & rob everyone blind, just like the UN did in Kosovo! Works for me!
We did it once with Texas. If the damn Yankee liberals would stay the hell out of our way, we'd do it again, and far more easily.
Mexico City is protected...it’s not been hit by this YET.
If you think everything is AOK in Mexico, or here because of Mexico, you are uninformed. Sorry. I don’t make up these MANY reports....they’re from the government and the border patrol who knows what is going on.
You don’t think that points to big problems in Mexico when the military tells it’s people:
Troops are restricted on travel to Mexico
January 17, 2009
CAMP PENDLETON
Troops are restricted on travel to Mexico
In response to the “prolonged, escalating violence” in Mexico, the commanding general of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force has tightened regulations for all Marines who want to travel south of the border, officials said.
Marines and sailors cannot travel alone to Mexico and must use the buddy system.
Also, troops must take an anti-terrorism course and keep the telephone number of the U.S. consulate in Tijuana when traveling in the border region. Violations of the order are punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, officials said.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-briefs17-2009jan17,0,4472460.story
“Yessss! So let’s form an NGO or some other BS civilian mission, and get paid to take over & rob everyone blind, just like the UN did in Kosovo! Works for me! “
Not going to happen, Bokababe....we’ll, instead, bring every third worlder south of the border, support them, until they take over...oh, wait...they just elected this president....It’s Kosovo all over again.
That's pretty much all that I have heard from people who live there, too -- other than in the Border areas where the cartels have been going nuts, even shooting up a police station in Baja -- and one similar incident in Merida, that shocked all the locals when 12 headless bodies were discovered. But people here forget that Mexico is a pretty big country.
Otherwise, Mexico seems to have really progressed in recent years. it's just the damn drug dealers.
From the halls of montezuma.... been there, done that.
“Hellhole?”
Oh! You must mean the transitional phase between annexation and “restoration?”
Ya buddy. Urban renewal and land reform, “Texas Style.” Gives “Restoration Hardware” a whole new meaning, doesn't it? ;)
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If our military goes at it with the mexican narcos, I wonder how many foolish American stupids go to fight alongside the narcos?
You know there will be some just like some stupids fought for the bad guys in Afganistan.
Fort Huachuca... man, I miss that place. Great post, great weather, great living conditions (those three categories are a FAIL in Germany). I lived in condemned barracks, but they were great. What does it say when AITers and those in training have considerably better living conditions than those who are permanent party? I love being in the Army, but I hate my living conditions. The Army needs to have a high-ranking individual who represents single enlisted soldiers. The married housing (married with NO CHILDREN) is wonderful; the single enlisted housing is absolute crap. If that's not unfair, then I don't know what is. If you're going to stick two soldiers in a tiny barracks room, then in all fairness, a married couple should have exactly the same living arrangements. So what if the spouse is a civilian? What difference does that make?
/ very angry rant
Not really. The will cheer anything the Great and Powerful O does.
Invade Mexico: isn't he wonderful?
Declare himself President for life? Wow, clever he is.
Personally suck the brains out of fifteen babies: compionsate, practical.
Not one American GI should be forced to go into the hell hole called Mexico until ALL of the illegal criminals here in America are identified, rounded up and then mass deported to the sewer from which they came.
After that, we should only guard our borders and SHOOT TO KILL any invaders from the south!
It’s their problem...let them deal with it. It is only a matter of time that Mexico will become a communist country anyway...why waste our boys lives to simply stave off what is coming anyway?
As tempting as it may be when that time comes to secure Mexico's northern tier of provinces for our own protection, invading a revolution seldom turns out well.
Well we already have New Mexico, so I guess Ol’ Mexico would work.
It does not.
Not in any way shape or form.
And to assert that it does (as in the opening sentence of this thread) is not "citizen journalism". It is lying, flat-out and plain and simple. Lying, not "journalism".
Read (or just skim) the "report" here: Joint Operating Environment (JOE 2008) http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2008/JOE2008.pdf
"[This report] provides a perspective on future trends, shocks, contexts, and implications for future joint force commanders and other leaders and professionals in the national security field. This document is speculative in nature and does not suppose to predict what will happen in the next twenty-five years. Rather, it is intended to serve as a starting point for discussions about the future security environment at the operational level of war." [emphasis added / angkor]
I am going to submit this posting for abuse, because its core premise and headline are both flatly untrue and deceptive to FR readers.
Which all says nothing about whether Mexico is or isn's a basket case. It is, of course, but that's not the point here.
The point is posting false assertions. As you can see, it ticks me off.
“Thanks for the link, which should be amplified so as to de-bunkify the assertion that this report “predicts” intervention in Mexico.
It does not.
Not in any way shape or form. “
WHO said it did? You’re getting distraught over what????I replied to people who said there was no report at all and NO problem in Mexico.
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