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Spanish Inquisition left genetic legacy in Iberia
New Scientist ^ | 04 December 2008 | Ewen Callaway

Posted on 12/05/2008 1:47:19 PM PST by forkinsocket

It's not often that cultural and religious persecution makes countries more diverse, but the Spanish Inquisition might have done just that.

One in five Spaniards and Portuguese has a Jewish ancestor, while a tenth of Iberians boast North African ancestors, finds new research.

This melting pot probably occurred after centuries of coexistence and tolerance among Muslims, Jews and Christians ended in 1492, when Catholic monarchs converted or expelled the Islamic population, called Moriscos. Sephardic Jews, whose Iberian roots extend to the first century AD, received much the same treatment.

"They were given a choice: convert, go, or die," says Mark Jobling, a geneticist at the University of Leicester, UK. Some of those that became Christian would have ended up contributing genes to the Iberian pool.

Historians know that some Sephardic Jews – Conversos or Cristãos Novos – integrated into Spanish and Portuguese society, while previous genetic studies have uncovered North African heritage in a small proportion of Iberians.

But to get a better gauge on intermarriage and integration, Jobling and colleagues in Spain, Portugal and Israel analysed the DNA of more than a thousand Spanish and Portuguese men who don't consider themselves Jewish or Islamic.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: conversos; dna; genes; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; hiddenjews; inquisition; jews; mohammedanism; mohammedanism122008; moriscos; nooneexpects; spain
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1 posted on 12/05/2008 1:47:19 PM PST by forkinsocket
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2 posted on 12/05/2008 1:53:17 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Not the Spanish Inquisition!
LOL


3 posted on 12/05/2008 1:54:54 PM PST by griswold3
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To: forkinsocket

Well, who expected that?


4 posted on 12/05/2008 1:56:04 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: forkinsocket

“When you’re handed lemons, make lemonade.” - Torquemada


5 posted on 12/05/2008 1:57:01 PM PST by decimon
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To: MrEdd
This melting pot probably occurred after centuries of coexistence and tolerance among Muslims, Jews and Christians ended in 1492, when Catholic monarchs converted or expelled the Islamic population, called Moriscos. Sephardic Jews, whose Iberian roots extend to the first century AD, received much the same treatment.

Ping to read later

6 posted on 12/05/2008 1:57:27 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: forkinsocket
Focusing on the Y-chromosome, which passes from father to son, Jobling's team matched each Iberian's DNA to modern Basques, North Africans, or Sephardic Jews. They chose Basques as representative of Iberians who trace their ancestry to early Europeans because studies have shown they interbred sparingly with other groups.

By choosing Basques they introduced a huge confound.Basques are so xenophobic that they have scarcely interbred with any other groups from Spain or Europe, ever. Basque is the only European language with no connection to the Indo-European language family.

7 posted on 12/05/2008 2:01:36 PM PST by Bertram3 (something else to live down)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping!


8 posted on 12/05/2008 2:02:01 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: forkinsocket

Jews, 1492, Moriscos 1640, get your History right.


9 posted on 12/05/2008 2:03:11 PM PST by Little Bill (Just a Poor White Person , clinging to God, Guns, and the Constitution)
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To: Bertram3
Basque is the only European language with no connection to the Indo-European language family.

Not quite true, there are the altaic languages spoken by Finns, Estonian, Latvians Etc. also Magyar (Hungarian) is a non indo European language as is Turkish. Some studies by some European linguists have found some links between south slavic languages and basque as well as a relationship to celtic tongues. The jury is till out on the basques.

10 posted on 12/05/2008 2:12:17 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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This melting pot probably occurred after centuries of coexistence and tolerance among Muslims, Jews and Christians ended in 1492

Yes, all was sweetness and light before 1492.

11 posted on 12/05/2008 2:14:39 PM PST by Jacquerie (If you are Christian, thank the barbarian Charles Martel.)
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To: MrEdd

Gratuitous “Spanish Inquisition” alert.


12 posted on 12/05/2008 2:30:18 PM PST by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Jacquerie

Yeah, the whole world was living in peace and harmony until the Christians came along.


13 posted on 12/05/2008 2:37:35 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: forkinsocket
This melting pot probably occurred after centuries of coexistence and tolerance among Muslims, Jews and Christians ended in 1492, when Catholic monarchs converted or expelled the Islamic population, called Moriscos. Sephardic Jews, whose Iberian roots extend to the first century AD, received much the same treatment.

Unmentioned here is that the Christians were living as second-class citizens (Dhimmis) under Muslim rule. When the Christians finally reconquered Spain, they wisely decided that allowing the Muslim population to remain would subject them to endless trouble and insurrection, so they told the defeated Muslims to leave.

14 posted on 12/05/2008 2:43:58 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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*This melting pot probably occurred after centuries of coexistence and tolerance among Muslims, Jews and Christians ended in 1492
Yes, all was sweetness and light before 1492.
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This jumped out at me, too. Consider that there was probably very little in the way of Moorish blood in the genetic makeup of the Iberian peninsula until much of it was CONQUERED. Also, that “coexistence” was the product of conquest and that the Jews & Christians were second-class [dhimmi] citizens forced to pay the jizya.

I guess it’s a small consolation to say the Jews were treated better here than in the rest of Europe—all dhimmi were subservient to Islam.


15 posted on 12/05/2008 2:55:47 PM PST by j-damn
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To: forkinsocket
One in five Spaniards and Portuguese has a Jewish ancestor, while a tenth of Iberians boast North African ancestors, finds new research.

The Afrocentric nonsense that "the Moors were black" takes another hit. The Spanish are not especially subsaharan-African-looking.

16 posted on 12/05/2008 3:00:40 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Banish Merry Christmas. Get ready for Mad Max.."-Daniel Henninger)
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To: j-damn

Do you live in Spain?


17 posted on 12/05/2008 3:14:03 PM PST by Jacquerie
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Thanks rabscuttle385!

Genes of Sephardic Jews still strong in Spain
Reuters | Dec. 5, 2008 | Teresa Larraz
Posted on 12/05/2008 12:21:36 PM PST by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2143606/posts


18 posted on 12/05/2008 3:44:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: Cacique

Finnish and Estonian are Uralic languages, not Altaic. Latvian is a Baltic languange, thus Indo-European.

There may be similarities between Basque and South Slavic and/or Celtic, but for all we know, they may well be coincedence. Also, Celts have been living in much of the Iberian pennesuela, so any similarities between Celtic and Basque may well come from borrowing.


19 posted on 12/05/2008 3:46:48 PM PST by Jacob Kell (MSM-Marxist Stalinist Media)
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To: forkinsocket

bump


20 posted on 12/05/2008 3:48:24 PM PST by VOA
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