Posted on 06/13/2008 7:07:31 AM PDT by shrinkermd
Republicans and conservatives are rallying behind Sen. John McCain's White House bid, but not because they are so enamored with him or his agenda. Instead, their loyalty is based on their perception that Illinois Sen. Barack Obama as president, particularly with large Democratic majorities in both chambers of Congress, would be utterly disastrous.
Regardless of whether you agree with them about the results of a Democratic presidential victory later this year, a McCain victory might produce its own series of domino-like events that ultimately might hurt the Grand Old Party.
...I don't necessarily agree with Stewart that a McCain victory in November would lead to the "eradication" of the GOP, but it's easy to see how a McCain presidency could end up being a nightmare for Republicans.
In the worst-case scenario, a McCain victory in November could likely lead to a Republican bloodletting that would tear apart the GOP well before 2012, contribute to another good Democratic election in 2010 and hand Democrats such a strong advantage during redistricting that Republicans wouldn't be able to recover for years.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
The “serious identity problem” of the republican party is its betrayal of the American people by embracing the policies of the left. Spending like dems in order to buy votes, being too gutless to declare global warming the hoax it is, joining dems to prevent drilling in Anwar and elsewhere—these are the things which did such profound damage to the party. Liberals, RINOS, limp-wrists and the total silence of actual conservatives when they should have been demanding that the liberals, RINOS and limp-wrists either leave the party or do the job of properly representing their constituents. Conservative voters sent repubs to congress in order to protect this nation from the left. Those republicans betrayed them, putting both the nation and their liberties at risk. McCain is one of those traitors...in fact, one of the leaders. His willingness to fast track amnesty through the Senate and past the American people all for the sake of a few extra votes is despicable and indefenseable. Whether it is he or Barry Hussein who brings 100 million mexicans into the US, complete with the accompanying disease, crime, drugs and welfare drain, what is the difference? It will require a second revolution to return this nation to the American people. And that will mean armed citizens defending the rights which the left will be gleefully taking away. In the final outcome, who we elect will not matter. The question will be whether Americans have grown too fat, too lazy and too uncaring to defend what was given to us free of charge 200+ years ago. I’m not optimistic.
Berkeley, like Massachusetts, both used to be heavily Republican bastions. Know what lost them ? Incompetent RINO non-leadership. When you have liberal rodents (RINOs) invading the GOP to wreak that sort of havoc, we shouldn’t be surprised at the end results of absolute and total Democrat domination. *omney was a prime example of it, as was his mentor, William Weld, who WAS a Democrat agent and friend of Hillary’s. These are the real cancers that need to be excised first before we ever take on the rodents in a general election.
“Stop the ridiculous comments and comparisons.”
It’s not ridiculous, and it was no comparison. Mcain/Feingold. Ever hear of it? The urine running down your thigh over Obama (and he would be horrible) tells me that you are not posting hateful things against fellow Freepers out of some principle. Just fear.
“Aren’t you the one who accused Cindy Mccain of being a Iraqi war profiteer and did not even know that her two boys are Marines in Iraqi or are you the MIA conspiracy guy?”
Neither. Did you stop beating your wife?
“You are very busy trashing MCCIN and trying to get to not VOTE to keep a Marxist named OBama from shutting us all up.”
I won’t pretend that I even understand this rant but I will tell you that I don’t care who you vote for. Matter of fact, in order that there be no confusion in the future, you should check out my tagline.
“Berkeley, like Massachusetts, both used to be heavily Republican bastions.”
Must’ve been pre-Kennedy.
Given what a bad field both parties put forth I’ve been thinking for over a year now that the 08 winner will probably (put it at about 75%) be a 1 termer. And historically the president that beats a 1 termer gets 2. Plus lets not forget the congressional mid-term problems (party of the president usually loses seats in the mid-term), and with the projections of the GOP losing seats this year, if McCain’s ‘12 successor brings seats (which usually happens) that would be 4 congressional elections in a row where the GOP lost seats.
Of course my 1 term projection revolves entirely around the idea that this year’s terrible field was an aberration. If the field in ‘12 is just as bad or worse then all bets are off.
What was that thread last night...I missed it.
Not good for the courts. Stevens would replaced with a younger model marxist. And should one of the good Justices run into some health problems.....
Real anger at McCain is easily seen from this thread. Looking at it, my guess is most is a function of the illegal problem.
Scratch a McCain Basher and watch a xenophobe bleed. This issue will be resolved shortly after the beginning of the next Congress. Most big time elected officials hate this issue and any other issue that results in public pressure determined by blind emotion.
So anticipate, hopefully, a clear way to identify illegals when they apply for a job. Also, there will be a plan to provide a way for those presently here to become citizens. Finally, all of this will be done with surprising ease once the fear of immediate voter outrage is lessened.
1. Gang of Fourteen (Kept some of President Bush’s best judges from being presented for a vote) See here and here
2. McCain-Fiengold (Assault on Free Speech and Pro-Life
3. McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty for criminal Illegal Aliens)
4. McCain-Lieberman (50 cents a gallon tax)
5. Total support for global warming scam, including the Carbon Cap-and-Trade system. See Here
6. Support for embryonic stem cell research (Murder of unborn babies).
7. Wants to moderate or soften the Pro-Life plank of the GOP Platform. See Here and Here and Here. 8. Wants to close Gitmo and give Terrorists access to our legal system.
9. F grade from Gun-Owners of America.
10. C grade from NRA.
11. 65% score from American Conservative Union in 2006
12. Wants to bail out sub-prime losers (many of which are either illegal aliens or lied on thier applications) with US tax money.
13. Voted against President Bush’s tax cuts (called them tax-cuts for the rich)
14. Flirted with the idea of crossing over to the Dems in 2004.
15. Wants to implement a socialist Health Care proposal that includes providing tax-coffer monies (your tax dollars) to the states to provide Health Care Insurance for those who either refuse to pay for it, or are unable to afford it (mostly illegal aliens).
16. Divorced his wife after he got back from Vietnam. The same woman who remained true to him and raised his kids while he was imprisoned.
17. Refuses to drill in ANWR. See here and here
18. Agrees with Democrats that our Foreign Policy has been arrogant and we need to be more humble.
19. Thinks and states that Pharmaceutical companies are evil
20. Has accepted funding from Soros and Teresa Heinz-Kerry for his institute
21. John McCain’s Top 10 Class-Warfare Arguments Against Tax Cuts
22. “I think the Democrat Party is a fine and I have no problems with it, in their views and philosophy”
23. Strongly against Same Sex Marriage Ban Constitutional Amendment
24. Voted for Pro-Abortion Bill and Here.
25. Voted against bill that would impose sanctions against foreign governments and companies that invest more than $20 million in Iran’s energy sector until the president certified to Congress that Iran had dismantled its weapons of mass destruction Here and Here
26. Voted against repealing the death tax.
27. McCain-Edwards-Kennedy (Many Democrat inspired bad rules included in this monstrosity)
In the case of Berkeley (and San Francisco, also a premier GOP bastion for a long time -- which still had a GOP Mayor into the 1960s), yes. MA declined but made a comeback in the '80s and '90s. Weld and *omney destroyed the last shreds of competitiveness... and deliberately so.
“Personally, I won’t be voting for McLame, and will just let the chips fall where they may.”
If all the conservative voters who say they are not voting for McCain actually vote third party, a write in, or stay home, Obama will be our next President. I am not happy with McCain but can’t allow Obama anyway near the White House. Now listening to Romney and know McCain will not pick him for VP. Romney is against closing GITMO, against amnesty, against Cap & Trade, and FOR drilling in America. Even so, Romney says he is working to elect McCain because Obama would cause too much damage to America.
1. Gang of Fourteen (Kept some of President Bush’s best judges from being presented for a vote) See here and here
2. McCain-Fiengold (Assault on Free Speech and Pro-Life
3. McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty for criminal Illegal Aliens)
4. McCain-Lieberman (50 cents a gallon tax)
5. Total support for global warming scam, including the Carbon Cap-and-Trade system. See Here
6. Support for embryonic stem cell research (Murder of unborn babies).
7. Wants to moderate or soften the Pro-Life plank of the GOP Platform. See Here and Here and Here. 8. Wants to close Gitmo and give Terrorists access to our legal system.
9. F grade from Gun-Owners of America.
10. C grade from NRA.
11. 65% score from American Conservative Union in 2006
12. Wants to bail out sub-prime losers (many of which are either illegal aliens or lied on their applications) with US tax money.
13. Voted against President Bush’s tax cuts (called them tax-cuts for the rich)
14. Flirted with the idea of crossing over to the Dems in 2004.
15. Wants to implement a socialist Health Care proposal that includes providing tax-coffer monies (your tax dollars) to the states to provide Health Care Insurance for those who either refuse to pay for it, or are unable to afford it (mostly illegal aliens).
16. Divorced his wife after he got back from Vietnam. The same woman who remained true to him and raised his kids while he was imprisoned.
17. Refuses to drill in ANWR. See here and here
18. Agrees with Democrats that our Foreign Policy has been arrogant and we need to be more humble.
19. Thinks and states that Pharmaceutical companies are evil
20. Has accepted funding from Soros and Teresa Heinz-Kerry for his institute
21. John McCain’s Top 10 Class-Warfare Arguments Against Tax Cuts
22. “I think the Democrat Party is a fine and I have no problems with it, in their views and philosophy”
23. Strongly against Same Sex Marriage Ban Constitutional Amendment
24. Voted for Pro-Abortion Bill and Here.
25. Voted against bill that would impose sanctions against foreign governments and companies that invest more than $20 million in Iran’s energy sector until the president certified to Congress that Iran had dismantled its weapons of mass destruction Here and Here
26. Voted against repealing the death tax.
27. McCain-Edwards-Kennedy (Many Democrat inspired bad rules included in this monstrosity)
So really the status quo continues, we have John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito who are all relatively young. Anthony Scalia is getting old but he'll be able to hold out at least another decade or so.
Look you need to understand. Conservatives do not have a candidate this election. I am sorry, but I am not voting for a liberal like McCain.
It seems to me that people are ignoring what will happen to other republicans running for office when they crank up the BS about Mccain. When you don’t support your party you get more of the other party.
You don’t want to vote for him fine, but please think of what happens when you let democrats control the whole enchilada and at least tone down the infighting.
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