Posted on 01/21/2008 4:22:50 AM PST by A Navy Vet
Does anyone still think that we the people have any real influence on the self-serving interests of our own Federal government? If you believe so, please don't bother to read further.
You need not be a political junkie to see that every time Congress is in session, it takes away more and more of your inherent rights with their socialist programs. I'm not going to preach to this choir, because I know the readers of this forum are probably THE most politically and socially astute persons on the Internet.
But I do have one question for you beyond the rhetoric that the candidates espouse:
What is their stand on "illegal immigration", and what is their stand on legal immigration?
Yes, I realize they are two separate issues but within the larger concept of the direction our Nation is taking, we must consider the numbers of legal immigrants allowed in. We can't be open to the entire world if we are to maintain our hard-earned standard of living.
Illegal immigrants have no standing; they should be deported if we had the resources. While most are good upstanding contributors, their culture also brings in to our homeland much murder, rape, theft, child abuse, drugs , gangwarfare, et al.
They flood our prisons; they flood our emergency rooms to the point of closing; they suck more of your tax dollars through "anchor babies" with food-stamps, welfare, and other social services. They depress property values; they build ghettoes. They build hate and distrust.
Here in the Los Angeles area of Southern Calif, "illegals" eat a huge part of the budget. Even the liberal Los Anglese Times has admitted the negative effect.
From what I read, it is happening more and more around Middle-America. We tried to warn you...but that's another story.
So what are we to to about the MASSIVE influx of foreign cultures that can't work along side our own and take your jobs at a slave rate makes you have to doubleup on work for your with family?
What are we to do about 25% of Hispanic prisoners in our jails? What are to do with the same Mexicans who every day kill our citizens on our highways and rape and murder our women and children? Don't believe me - got stats.
We may not be able to stop every drunken Mexican crashing into and killing an American family on the road, much like we can't stop every stupid US citizen, but at least that citizen had a right to be here in the first place. Like we need MORE criminals.
Here are my solutions:
Federal: The NAFTA agreement that is allowing Mexican truckers into our highways should be stopped, yesterday. Other so-called "free trade" agreements should be reviewed and amended to be "fair trade".
State: The Arizona Court of Appeals decision requiring employers to VERFIFY the legality of their workers is now the law of the land. I read every day that illegal Mexicans are moving out of Arizona and on to other states or even just going back to Mexico. You want solutions? Here it is. Since this decision was not overturned, it is having a huge decrease on the influx of illegal aliens into Arizona. We've all known...take the jobs away - they stay away.
Here's my suggestion: As we killed the McCain/Kennedy Shamensty Bill giving a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens, we should now build a coalition to support any city, county, or state that wants to pass the same type of laws as Arizona. There is another state working towards similar employer penalties - Louisiana I believe. There are also a number of cities that have written into their laws that they would not be a "sactuary" city.
Hammer the employers who knowingly hire illegals and the demand will dry up. Oh no, we will be doomed because there won't be anyone to fill those low paying jobs. Bullshit. They were done before, they will be done again.
This movement is growing. If you care about the cohesiveness our our country, American jobs, American continuity, this type of local effort could be the answer. It's working in Arizona as I type this.
What say you?
Another facet -
illegals do the work that those on the gov’t dole would do if they had to in order to eat and have a place to live.
If you need any proof of this, just consider this: Chinese-made crap sells well even when it's clearly labeled as Chinese-made crap.
If you were to ask anyone on the street if they'd rather pay $50 for a product made in the U.S. or $20 for a product made in China, they'd probably tell you that they'd pay the extra $30 for the American-made product. But if you followed them through a retail store with a hidden camera and tracked their individual purchases, you'd find the exact opposite.
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Scratch a liberal and under his thin skin is a socialist. Dig a little deeper and you will soon find the Marxist nuclear fuel rod that drives everything he says and does.
Corollary: All Marxists lie.
On the “left” there are really only two classes of people: Intelligent Marxists and stupid Useful Idiots.
Ragnar Danneskjold
There are lots of ways to describe the dichotomy on the left - and it IS a dichotomy, with every leftist falling into or identifying with one of the two extremes.
Shepherd & Sheep (Elite, “know better” types vs the “take care of me” types)
Satanic & Stupid (The Stupid don’t know, or are willfully ignorant, that socialist systems don’t work. The Satanic know that the systems don’t work and result in misery, but know that they gain power through promoting them.)
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I have repeatedly posted that the Marxists’ most powerful weapon against freedom is our government K-12 schools, colleges and universities.
Immigration would not be a threat to our country, ( not even illegal immigration) if the anchor-baby children were educated in schools that upheld, supported, and promoted the Judeo Christian values that are the bedrock of all freedom. Hey! Eventually, these kids would grow up to be voting adults that would support freedom, not tear it down.
>>>>I don’t recall stating with whom I wanted to start.
Sorry, I misread you.
Satanic & Stupid (The Stupid don’t know, or are willfully ignorant, that socialist systems don’t work. The Satanic know that the systems don’t work and result in misery, but know that they gain power through promoting them.)
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Excellent analysis!
Agreed and should be read for everyone. I’ve sent it to hundreds of people over the years as I believe Dr. Williams is dead-on.
No problem!
Interesting thought about your point #2: My mother’s cousin (yes, I know, she’s my cousin too, but of my parents’ generation) was a social worker in NYC and a New Deal Democrat from the word go.
When she died, I got most of her personal papers and some books. I found a case history of an Italian immigrant who contracted TB — I guess this was in the 1930’s. The City of New York social services sent him back to Italy.
Timing is everything, I guess. Nowadays the guy would hire a lawyer and we’d all pay for his care “till death do us part”....
The wages paid to unskilled illegal peasant laborers here in the US are 40 to 60 percent below the wages paid to American workers in the 60's and 70's, when adjusted for inflation.
Enforce the labor and immigration laws through fines, jailtime, deportation, and every other legal means, and the American emmployer will be forced to pay a fair and livable wage which will attract people off of the dole.
This is one southern boy that is armed. I am not giving my guns up to the government so that the government can rule me. There are things in this world that you have to stand up and fight for. This is one that I will. Since I am not going to go to jail, then as President Heston said, FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND. THAT is the ONLY way they will get my guns. I have plenty of friends who are of the same mind. I am NOT GIVING UP MY GUNS. Go ahead and put me on the hit list imperial federal government lurkers. I have my guns at home. I also have my guns at another location that you don't have an address too. Break into my house while I am not here and take these. No worries. I have others. And in today's marxist dimocrat climate, I am buying more.
“let’s just have the war while we are young enough to fight it...”
I could not agree with you more than I do. But, even so, it’s still just talk. Action is needed, otherwise, we will not be young enough, and there is no better cause than the one we have today.
Look at Switzerland and their immigration policies./Just Asking - seoul62........
Agreed...indoctrination begins with the schools and is perpetuated by the main stream media...
-- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Interesting.
If you Google around you can find a day-to-day description of Ellis Island, which was by no means a hellhole, but where US Immigration DID do some very serious health inspections and where people WERE sent back to their home countries if they were too sick or infirm. In fact the cruise lines were charged with doing those inspections at foreign ports, and to prevent them from shirking that duty the cruise lines were required to return any immigrant back to Europe gratis (no charge) if they were disqualified at Ellis Island.
BTW, my wife went through the health screens when she was an immigrant (now US Citizen) and they are still very rigorous.
The problem is there are too many voting age (or facsimile thereof) blind followers looking for the government (and us) to take care of them.
There are plenty of thieves in the neighborhood at night, but these are out in the open, and leading this country right into Purgatory.
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