Ask Yourself: What Your Kid's Future Is Going To Look Like In A Balkanized America.

VetsCoR ^ | January 20, 1950 | A Navy Vet

[central_va]

Personally, I think we might be better off balkanized than socialist.

An interesting comment you make, define balkanized, please.

[joeystoy]

Illegals do the work that Americans refuse to do.

Absolutely true.

But which Americans?

Ask yourself that question every time you mow your own lawn, clean your own toilet and drive your own kids to school. It’s not that low and middle income Americans refuse to do low-wage jobs, it’s that the upper middle and high income Americans (can anyone say Chappaqua?) talk about social justice while still engaging businesses that hire illegals and individuals they know to be here illegally. I refuse to take lectures on racial harmony and social justice from liberal hypocrites who live in segregated communities, send their kids to segregated schools and outsource the rearing of their own children.

These nitwits are incapable of starting a lawnmower or driving a nail into a wall yet they presume to tell us how we should live our lives.

Does anyone want to ask Hillary why she lives in Chappaqua?

Is it because she wants to be nearer to the poor or because for decades it’s been known as the bedroom community of choice for every low-life, dirtbag lawyer in New York?

[wintertime]

Hammer the employers who knowingly hire illegals and the demand will dry up.

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Until last year, I was an employer.

Somehow, I suspect that “hammering” employers who “knowingly” hire illegals will mean that those who don’t hire them “knowingly” will get hammered accidentally. It will also mean a lot more paperwork, time, expense, and vigilance on the part of law abiding employers.

If GOVERNMENT would do it job, then employer would not have to play UNPAID cop. Checking the identity of an employee should be no more complicated than a 2 minute phone call with an immediate response ( with a receipt from the government agency.)

I suggest the following:

1) Every traffic stop should include a check for immigration status. If that person is an illegal, they and their illegal family is deported within the week!

2) All hospitals accepting any government payments should check immigration status. Any illegals should be stabilized and deported as soon as their condition is not life threatening.

3) Government schools should report all children and families who do not have LEGAL residence.

4) All social services should check immigration status of all clients.

5) Any illegal should be finger printed and he and ALL of his family down to 3rd cousins should be forever forbidden from immigrating legally to this country.

6) Any illegal found voting should have a 30 year prison sentence. (Yes, corrupting our voting process IS that serious!)

Do this and the government should not have to “hammer” employers.

[Brilliant]

This is what Websters says:

Bal·kan·ize

to divide (a country, territory, etc.) into small, quarrelsome, ineffectual states.

[P8riot]

Actually

Illegals do the work that millions of aborted Americans refuse to cannot do.

[mathluv]

Does anyone else wonder if the ‘solution’ that Congress wants to illegal immigrants is a NATIONAL ID card - for everyone????

[Molly K.]

You wrote: “My number one issue is immigration.Winning the war on terror is a mute point if we dont have a country.It is being sold out from the powers that be.”

This is an excellent point.
We could survive and recover from an outside attack.
We could survive and recover from a recession or depression.
But if we lose our national identity, we lose everything.

We must weigh this carefully as we decide who to vote for in the coming elections.

[angkor]

They may take the lower paying jobs that most of our children start with, were they available and not occupied by Illegals, but they also progress into Industries important to the livelihoods of many a tradesman.

It's simple: they're taking jobs from Americans because they work for 40 percent to 60 percent less.

When I was in college and working summer construction in the 70's, the hourly rate for unskilled laborers was $6 to $8. Using any conventional inflation measure (e.g., CPI, Average Wage Rate), today's rate would be $24 to $28 per hour.

Anecdotally, illegals are making $12 to $15 per hour today for uskilled labor, which obviously is 40 to 60 percent less than the rate paid to the largely American labor force of the late 70's.

[STONEWALLS]

.....yes, I agree the country will fracture in the future....I expect this could also be proceeded by Bosnian type wars of secession/partition.... if I were betting on it; Latinos will the Southwest; thanks to waves of illegals....blacks will get the South; thanks to their high birth rate....the Northeast will be inter racial....the Midwest and upper midwest will be Anglo-European Judeo-Christian; and will represent the values of the old America...

See:Thomas Chittum’s “Civil War Two”....the most important book I’ve seen on this subject....you’ll probably have to buy it or borrow a copy....it’s way too truthful for the leftists who control our public libraries.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

Guns up!

[sport]

The rule of law has been undone. It was undone during the Clinton regime when the Clintons were allowed to violate any law thy so chose without being called, to account. The ones responsible for enforceing the laws gave many excuses to cover for them such as, She gave factually untrue testimony” in an official preceeding. If I had did that it would have beeb perjury. Another one was offered by the great Republican, Orrin Hatch, “We can’t indict a sitting First Lady.”

Make no mistake, the law[s] will till be enforced and enforced vigorusly on peope such as myself and probably you along with their political enemies.

But the elites a/k/a Democrats and their enablers are immune.

[T-Bird45]

Another thread for those replying here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1956817/posts

Titled, England, an Epitaph. FR poster Travis McGee makes a comment about Enoch Powell that caused me to look at a very interesting Wikipedia article on Powell.

[buck61]

The nanny state is in full force and scaring the heck out of business.

Last week on FR, there were articles describing the closing of many retail stores in America. Some named I couldn’t believe were shutting the doors.

Our congress critters are taxing many business’s to their demise!!

[angkor]

It’s not that low and middle income Americans refuse to do low-wage jobs, it’s that the upper middle and high income Americans (can anyone say Chappaqua?) talk about social justice

Beg to differ, but it's simple economics.

Use any one of the many inflation calculators out there on the Internet, and compare unskilled and semi-skilled pay from the 60's and 70's to that of today.

You'll quickly see that illegals are working for 40 to 60 percent less than the American work force of the 60's and 70's.

It's simple business math: employers are hiring from the cheapest labor pool (illegal peasant laborers), and Americans have no interest in competing for peasant wages.

If unskilled and semi-skilled labor rates tracked with the CPI for the last 30 years (as do other salaries), wages would be in the $25/hour range and Americans WOULD compete for those jobs.

(There's a whole argument to be made about natural barriers to entry, the protection of wage rates, and the purpose of unions in skilled and semi-skilled labor markets).

[Travis McGee]

I moved my family from SoCal to north Florida, because I don’t want to be in Aztlan when TSHTF.

[Boiling point]

I disagree, The elite are Not immune. When it comes lock and load time, My goal is to go after the “elite” political types FIRST. What do they care if we battle it out amongst ourselves! If I have to take my merry band of pirates, steal a boat and search every Caribbean Island and exclusive resort spot on planet earth, That’s what I’ll be doing! The planet will be too small a hiding place.

[glide625]

I myself have wondered about that and I think that may be the solution they are going to pursue; the obvious avenue is the standardized drivers license, chipped and with verifiable biometrics.

[glide625]

Ha, ha, we’re there! Just ask the folks in NOLA after Katrina.

[joeystoy]

Yes. Absolutely true. My point is that the ultimate employers of illegals are those liberal snotbags who lecture us. One of my neighbors is a “Landscape Architect”. The workers show up every morning, pile into the trucks and head for the high-tone communities here on Long Island. The same high-tone communities that consistently vote Democrat.

If these same liberals were willing to pay a living wage to those who clean their toilets and mow their lawns there would be no question about who is willing to do the work.

BTW: The same “Landscape Architect” that hires the illegals also keeps all of her equipment on her residential property in violation of local zoning regulations.

[Travis McGee]

Those private islands with megayacht (nothing under 100’) marinas and private jet runways are guarded by private security companies like Blackwater, with the latest gear such as FLIR surveillance etc. Make sure you pack a lunch.

Plus, if anything nasty threatened one private island, they would merely fly the coop to another of their dozen ranches, mansions etc around the world.