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I know a few men like Dr. Baskerville. They belong to what I call the 'Bitter Bachelor's Club'.

Divorced men who have been royally ripped off by so called "family courts".

1 posted on 11/13/2007 7:08:32 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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Yeah, but to go bitter against marriage and either wind up living in mommy’s basement when they are 40 or decide to go gay is not the answer.


2 posted on 11/13/2007 7:10:20 AM PST by Bushwacker777
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marry a traditional woman if you want a family

don’t be a mouse-man


3 posted on 11/13/2007 7:11:26 AM PST by wardaddy (This country is being destroyed by folks who could have never created it.)
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I greatly hate to say this: Much in this article is very accurate, and worth serious consideration.


4 posted on 11/13/2007 7:12:04 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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And yet I cannot, in good conscience, urge young men to marry today. For many men (and some women), marriage has become nothing less than a one-way ticket to jail. Even the New York Times has reported on how easily "the divorce court leads to a jail cell," mostly for men. In fact, if I have one urgent piece of practical advice for young men today it is this: Do not marry and do not have children.

My advice to young men: spit on Miss Baskerville every time you walk by his prissy little self.

5 posted on 11/13/2007 7:13:28 AM PST by r9etb
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There are worse outcomes than not being married. The debris-field of ruined lives is evident all around us. If you have a good marriage and good children, you should thank God every day.


6 posted on 11/13/2007 7:15:07 AM PST by kittymyrib
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Communist party goal #40, as read into the US Congressional record in 1963:

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.


7 posted on 11/13/2007 7:15:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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marriage = bad. doesn’t sound like good odds at all. 50% of marriages end in divorce.

the rest end in death.


9 posted on 11/13/2007 7:17:25 AM PST by absolootezer0 (Only two products have come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. Coincidence? I think not.)
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I wouldn’t give up my family for anything. If my wife divorced me tommorrow I would get joint custody since that is the norm as I understand it in Florida, and she could take as much money as the law would give her, and I wouldn’t for a moment even consider wanting my child not to exist.

In other words, living a half life, alone, without family, is not the solution to the risk of divorce. My solution . . . look for a believing Christian wife. Stats say it doesn’t much matter, but that is why I say “believing,” not a woman just going through the motions.


10 posted on 11/13/2007 7:17:42 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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I wouldn’t give up my family for anything. If my wife divorced me tommorrow I would get joint custody since that is the norm as I understand it in Florida, and she could take as much money as the law would give her, and I wouldn’t for a moment even consider wanting my child not to exist.

In other words, living a half life, alone, without family, is not the solution to the risk of divorce. My solution . . . look for a believing Christian wife. Stats say it doesn’t much matter, but that is why I say “believing,” not a woman just going through the motions.


11 posted on 11/13/2007 7:17:42 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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Wow, talk about cynical.
I’m in the group that believes many modern American women are difficult for men to have relationships with, but this guy has gone off the deep end.
Not all women are so cold and calculating.


13 posted on 11/13/2007 7:19:13 AM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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“divorce is a far more grievous blow to marriage than today’s challenge by gays.” Complete Nonsense

“It is well known that half of all marriages end in divorce.” Complete nonsense and completely untrue. It may be well known but what is known is false. The REAL numbers are less than ONE THIRD. The fact is the majority of marriages stay together. This alone should be an argument for marriage not against it.

This story by spewing false information is a threat to marriage and society.

The homosexual agenda is very interested to spewing much the same nonsense about marriage in an effort to redefine it to the extent that it will include them.

There are plenty of good girls our there who don’t believe this kind of trash. Boys, go get them and have 10 children and may you live long enough to see your children's children.

Legally speaking marriage is being challenged by homosexuality every single day.

15 posted on 11/13/2007 7:20:57 AM PST by SQUID
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Men do get the raw end of the deal quite often but abandoing marriage and family is no answer as it would merely destroy our civilization and also hand the feminists the victory they crave.

As stated earlier, if you marry a traditional woman your chances of this happening to you are decreased significantly. Also, courts are beginning to turn around so enough of the rubbish of showing your anger through abandoning marriage — besides, if you sleep around and get a gal pregnant you then leave yourself even more vulnerable to the courts without any benefits of family whatsoever. Yes the system needs changing badely, but unless guys want to get their jollies with their computers or buy choose on of the Village People as their fashion guru and hang out at the local gay bar then you just have to make the best of it.


16 posted on 11/13/2007 7:21:07 AM PST by Bushwacker777
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We just finished a trial here in Nevada of a guy named Daren Mack. A very successful family, he was a millionaire. He was so enraged that he brutally murdered his ex wife and took a pot shot at the judge in his divorce case (who BTW is a fully acknowledged a%%hole). Hi life was ruined by divorce. Many who know him say he was not the most stable guy to start with but the judge cleaned him out on the divorce.
17 posted on 11/13/2007 7:21:10 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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Sounds like someone has the “red eye” left over from an unfavorable family court proceeding...


21 posted on 11/13/2007 7:22:26 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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My wife of 6 years decided she no longer wanted to be married. I thank GOD we didn’t have children. That was 14 years ago and I have not remarried and I have no regrets whatsoever.


22 posted on 11/13/2007 7:22:42 AM PST by bigcat32
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I think the NOW Hags have had a LARGE hand in this. Let’s place the blame where it belongs. The Democrats and the NOW Hags.

Not that anyone could’ve kept me pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen, but they sold millions of women a “Bill of Goods” that did nothing to advance a womans role in society other than set us up as workhorses and second-income earners at the expense of our kids. It did nothing but remove our spines and we’ve ended up with two generations now of fatherless kids and screwed up families.

I speak from experience. Mom left us when she was 40, to “find herself.” Yep. She “found herself” in the arms of another man.

Add me to the “Bitter Daughter’s Club,” and in my generation (1960-present), we are legion.


26 posted on 11/13/2007 7:23:36 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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I know a few men like Dr. Baskerville. They belong to what I call the 'Bitter Bachelor's Club'.

Divorced men who have been royally ripped off by so called "family courts".

I've been there, and looking back on it, I was lucky to get off as lightly as I did. Nowadays, I advise my young nephews (and nieces) not to think of marriage until they are in their late twenties/early thirties.

27 posted on 11/13/2007 7:23:58 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Feminism destroyed marriage and the family, as many conservatives predicted.


28 posted on 11/13/2007 7:24:08 AM PST by Hacklehead (Proud graduate of the Klingon School of Interpersonal Communication.)
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I'm sure each of us knows at least one man to whom this has happened, and that we also know many to whom it has not.

I have a friend in her late 50s who ended up with an income of $20,000/year, while her millionaire husband owns several homes, flies around the world on luxury business trips, and buys cars for his less-well-off relatives. I also know my brother, whose wife repeatedly cheated on him. He took parenting classes, and was able to demonstrate to court mediators that he was the one who got the kids up and off to school, cooked their meals, helped them with their homework, and put them to bed. He got primary custody--and this was in California.

Divorce is terrible for most people, I think, and for nearly all children.

29 posted on 11/13/2007 7:24:14 AM PST by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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I went through all this and it’s very accurate. Lucky for my kids they were all teens. I don’t know what happens to people that can make them turn on the ones they love but it happens all the time. My Ex did everything she could to ruin me and although my world was falling apart around me, I still had the love of my kids. I still demanded them show respect to their mother. They knew what was happening and through their love of me it made it bearable. I told my kids that because I had them, I would do it all over again.


30 posted on 11/13/2007 7:24:20 AM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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