Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Illegal Immigration or Invasion
November 9, 2007 | backtothestreets

Posted on 11/10/2007 12:03:03 AM PST by backtothestreets

I've snipped some Articles from three different sources for this posting.

MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha) is classified as a gang by our government, but MS-13 was, and for all practical purposes, still is a paramilitary organization. With 200,000 members nationwide, and most illegal immigrants, it is an army, an invasion, and should be treated as such.

Anyone can search Yahoo or Google news for MS-13 any day of the week, and they will find murder after murder, and often the victims are US citizens. It is madness.

In remarks Wednesday, DHS Secretary Chertoff said ICE was deporting criminal MS-13 members. Nothing different then what the feds did 20 years ago.

The government has been deporting them for two decades, and they just come right back in. There should be a federal law allowing for their immediate execution if they return. US citizens that join MS-13 should be treated as traitors since the organization is a foreign paramilitary force. And, this includes any politician or government official that has granted favors to MS-13.

If joining or assisting a foreign paramilitary force inside our borders is not treason, what is it?

People really need to think about what is happening here in the USA. All the people that support keeping our troops in Iraq need to understand the paramilitary MS-13 forces in our nation this moment outnumber all our troops in Iraq. Why these folks are more concerned with protecting Iraq than our own soil and American lives is beyond me. What the heck are our people thinking?

When Princeton University, one of the most liberal universities in the nation, is hounding local police to do more to secure the area from the local MS-13 threat there, that’s news. It’s not just conservatives that are concerned. ALL AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED! http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2007/11/05/opinion/19186.shtml

Here’s a snip from a Las Vegas news report:

The most violent gang of the bunch is MS-13, more of a paramilitary group than a mere gang. It’s made up primarily of ex-soldiers from Central America, especially El Salvador. MS-13 is believed responsible for thousands of murders. They’re suspected of working with Al Quaeda to smuggle terrorists into the U.S. And because of their military training, they are often hired as assassins or muscle by the Colombian cartels or Mexican mafia.

Carlos Acosta: "They’ve gone to war. They’ve killed people. They’ve fought."

George Knapp: "So, it’s more dangerous for you guys?"

Carlos Acosta: "Absolutely."

Larry Miller: "So, instead of kids you’re dealing with trained soldiers." REF: http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7300961

Another Las Vegas report states "As feared as they are in our communities, the army they are building behind bars can be even more frightening." REF: http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7305459

From yet another college newspaper report: "Of course there could be gang members on your campus. You’ve got bangers in the military now," REF: http://media.www.signal-online.net/media/storage/paper771/news/2007/10/17/Editorial/Gang-Activity.Shouldnt.Come.As.Surprise-3036918.shtml

Conservatives need to stop thinking liberals do not care about illegal immigration. Conservatives need to combine forces with the liberals that are concerned, and there are many. Only then can we hope to force politicians of both parties to act. We need to hang-up the conservative and liberal labels and come together as Americans.

If the government waits, and hell breaks out here in the USA, our citizens will not be asking to see any documentation. They will go after anyone they think an illegal immigrant based on race first and many honest, law-abiding US citizens of Mexican, Central and South American decent are going to be hurt badly! This should not happen, but the government has set the stage for it to happen. It’s utter madness!

If this ever happens, hold the politicians accountable.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; crime; gangs; illegalimmigration; invasion; ms13
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 121-131 next last
To: Hornitos
You know, you are correct. I’ll apologize for my idiotic, knee-jerk assertion. Frustration got the better of me.

I honestly believe most Americans are not aware of the dire domestic situation. If MSM had been reporting the violence within our nation in the same manner they were portraying progress in Iraq, it could be different. News broadcasts would begin with reports of “X number of Americans were murdered in the US today by illegal immigrant gangs”.

If such reporting came about, and at that time our citizens decided Iraq was of greater importance than our own nation, then my statement would hold water.

61 posted on 11/10/2007 11:33:47 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: backtothestreets; All

From the US Border Patrol:

WHAT IS AN ARMY? (The invasion of the USA)

The United States of America spent over forty years defending itself against a terrible foe. That foe was the Soviet Union.

The United States built 70,000 nuclear weapons of 65 different types to protect ourselves from a Soviet army of two million men. That two million man army was composed of Christians (the govenment leaders were definately not Christian) who were responsible for fine art, fine music, the first man in space and rockets to the moon.

What makes up an army? An army is made of men between the age of 15 and 35.

What comes across our border by the millions each year? Men between the ages of 15 and 35.

Afghan drug lords are now teamed with Mexican drug cartels to flood our cities with heroin. In Mexico, this Muslim Connnection to the drug cartels has brought beheadings to the streets of border towns. Many Mexican cities are now surrounded by Mexican Army troops and tanks — all to quel the violence. The city of Tijuana had its entire 3,000 man police force disarmed and replaced with Mexican Federal Troops.

What we have below are two images. One is of an enemy we fought tooth and claw for seventy years nearly bankrupting our country. The other we today invite across our border with welfare, free medical care, and more. The centers of many American cities are now controlled by MS-13 and others of the most violent gangs in America’s entire history. These gangs want to kill police and federal agents to rise in reputation among their own kind. Our prisons are now filled with a violent criminal class never seen before anywhere on earth.

In all of the 70 years of the Soviet Union — including the years of the proxy war of Vietnam.— they killed fewer Americans in total than Mexican Illegal Aliens do inside this country in a single year.

What is our Border Patrol to do when these people invade our country? Run and hide....... what they are to do when these Mexican gangs or the Mexican Army invade our country.

http://www.usborderpatrol.com/Border_Patrol901_10.htm


62 posted on 11/10/2007 11:41:22 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: azhenfud

>>>Getting Americans back to doing jobs Americans have grown too lazy to do needs be a priority, and quitting paying them for not doing those jobs is paramount.<<<

You are right - up to a point. There are many ‘entitled’ Americans who sit on their front porchs living off welfare and food stamps.

But. As Duncan Hunter stated last night on the Glenn Beck show: The illegal invaders are undercutting (working for less money) jobs everywhere, and the construction company that has the lowest bid (the one that hires illegals) gets the job - leaving the honest companies (that do NOT hire illegals, and pays full wages) out in the cold.

Look at what is happening to our trucking industry. If an illegal will deliver the same goods to a company for half the cost, the American is out of a delivery.

Why would anyone hire someone to clean their house for $15/hour, when they can call a National company that hires illegals, and pays them half the salary, and charges the homeowner 1/3 less.

The illegal invaders are putting our hard working Americans out of work, too. Most Americans are not lazy, welfare entitled red-necks that won’t do the jobs.

They are being outsourced by the illegals and companies that hire them for slave wages.


63 posted on 11/10/2007 11:53:14 AM PST by yorkie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: backtothestreets

Glen Beck had a Texas border sheriff on his show the other night. The sheriff, a guy named West, said the Mexican Army at times places squads of troops as far as 15 miles into U.S. territory. He said these soldiers are there to protect a drug corridor that runs up to Dallas. He said his deputies chased some of these guys back across the border and they were fired at by Mexican troops with 50-caliber sniper rifles. He said the feds were nowhere on this problem.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923817/posts


64 posted on 11/10/2007 11:57:15 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: backtothestreets; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Alrighty, then...I don’t see where this one has been pinged yet.

And it is chock full of good, insightful comments thanks to some of the more well-known anti-illegal immigration thinkers here at FR.

More good weekend reading material, folks!


65 posted on 11/10/2007 12:55:31 PM PST by HiJinx (Marine to Gen Pace: "Sir, thanks for your service. We’ll take it from here.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yorkie; azhenfud
I’m going to add fuel to the fire, and hope you will read all that I have to post about “doing the jobs Americans will not do”.

Bush and all the other politicians are correct, the illegal immigrants are doing the jobs Americans will not do. What they are not discussing is why this is.

Most of the jobs Americans will not do require Spanish speaking. Consider this carefully.

Public schools throughout the nation have ESL (English as a Second Language) classes for illegal immigrants so they can be fluent in both English and their native language. No such equivalent national education program exists for children born into English speaking households.

If Spanish is a requirement for a job, who will fill these jobs, a person that speaks English, or a person that speaks Spanish with some English?

"Jobs Americans will not do", is a valid statement, but it does not explain why Americans will not do these jobs.

At any given time, we have nearly 3 million American youths, ages 15 - 24 seeking work. These are not kids sitting on their collective butts waiting for handouts. They represent about 10% of their age population.

When unskilled jobs require an applicant to speak Spanish, and our youths have not been prepared to compete for these jobs, the government has a plan that does not include our native citizen population.

For the benefit of our domestic population, it should be made unlawful to require a language other than English as a prerequisite for employment, except those jobs that are passive interpretors only, not people actually doing the labor.

To benefit both our youths and employers, all mandatory SSI contributions by our youths and employers should be ended so long as the youths remain in school.

66 posted on 11/10/2007 12:57:04 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: All

Here’s a related article discussing the Mexican paramilitary organization, the Zetas:

American youths did Mexican drug cartel’s dirty work

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923875/posts


67 posted on 11/10/2007 1:01:05 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: HiJinx

Thnx for the ping..will read later tonight. BUMP!


68 posted on 11/10/2007 1:02:29 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: HiJinx; All

Don’t know what to think of this. The video states that Mexican men are armed with AK-46, and other high powered rifles, to protect the drug runners, 200 miles north of the border in AZ.

Could this be some sort of nasty joke?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN9E8YZ4sVU


69 posted on 11/10/2007 1:17:43 PM PST by yorkie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: yorkie

I don’t think it’s a joke, no. Numbers USA has shown a fair amount of integrity so far, but...

That map of Federal lands stops well shy of the 200 mile mark. It’s 187 miles from Sierra Vista to Metro Center in Phoenix. That’s a diagonal line. Using that scale, 200 miles is off the map.

Those positions look a lot like where I sit when glassing for deer...

Ah, that’s what I thought - the divided highway is I-8, half-way between Gila Bend and Casa Grande, with the Barry Goldwater Bombing Range to the south.


70 posted on 11/10/2007 1:31:36 PM PST by HiJinx (Marine to Gen Pace: "Sir, thanks for your service. We’ll take it from here.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Crim
We need a wall and our military on the our borders along with rounding up and deporting the invaders. This country is being invaded and politicians are in a frenzy to surrender and grant the invaders amnesty along with special perks such as reduced college tuition, free medical care, etc. This is obscene.
71 posted on 11/10/2007 1:37:06 PM PST by Dante3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: HiJinx

It looked like I-10 to me, west of Picacho Peak, south of Phoenix. Goose-bump time!


72 posted on 11/10/2007 2:02:32 PM PST by yorkie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: HiJinx

Good stuff....thanks!


73 posted on 11/10/2007 3:00:24 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: backtothestreets

uh....both.


74 posted on 11/10/2007 3:01:13 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yorkie

They’re both very much alike! The mountains are closer to the Interstate along that stretch of -8.


75 posted on 11/10/2007 3:30:37 PM PST by HiJinx (Marine to Gen Pace: "Sir, thanks for your service. We’ll take it from here.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

Well said. Destruction comes from within and with open arms.


76 posted on 11/10/2007 3:38:08 PM PST by Altura Ct.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: TigersEye

Thank you. I appreciate it.


77 posted on 11/10/2007 5:37:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Altura Ct.

Thank you and it sure does.


78 posted on 11/10/2007 5:38:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
They have not been keeping their goal a secret, that's for sure.

Too bad the MSM collaborates in keeping it away from Joe Sixpack in middle America.


79 posted on 11/10/2007 7:45:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

I agree Travis.


80 posted on 11/10/2007 8:23:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 121-131 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson