Posted on 11/10/2007 12:03:03 AM PST by backtothestreets
I've snipped some Articles from three different sources for this posting.
MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha) is classified as a gang by our government, but MS-13 was, and for all practical purposes, still is a paramilitary organization. With 200,000 members nationwide, and most illegal immigrants, it is an army, an invasion, and should be treated as such.
Anyone can search Yahoo or Google news for MS-13 any day of the week, and they will find murder after murder, and often the victims are US citizens. It is madness.
In remarks Wednesday, DHS Secretary Chertoff said ICE was deporting criminal MS-13 members. Nothing different then what the feds did 20 years ago.
The government has been deporting them for two decades, and they just come right back in. There should be a federal law allowing for their immediate execution if they return. US citizens that join MS-13 should be treated as traitors since the organization is a foreign paramilitary force. And, this includes any politician or government official that has granted favors to MS-13.
If joining or assisting a foreign paramilitary force inside our borders is not treason, what is it?
People really need to think about what is happening here in the USA. All the people that support keeping our troops in Iraq need to understand the paramilitary MS-13 forces in our nation this moment outnumber all our troops in Iraq. Why these folks are more concerned with protecting Iraq than our own soil and American lives is beyond me. What the heck are our people thinking?
When Princeton University, one of the most liberal universities in the nation, is hounding local police to do more to secure the area from the local MS-13 threat there, thats news. Its not just conservatives that are concerned. ALL AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED! http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2007/11/05/opinion/19186.shtml
Heres a snip from a Las Vegas news report:
The most violent gang of the bunch is MS-13, more of a paramilitary group than a mere gang. Its made up primarily of ex-soldiers from Central America, especially El Salvador. MS-13 is believed responsible for thousands of murders. Theyre suspected of working with Al Quaeda to smuggle terrorists into the U.S. And because of their military training, they are often hired as assassins or muscle by the Colombian cartels or Mexican mafia.
Carlos Acosta: "Theyve gone to war. Theyve killed people. Theyve fought."
George Knapp: "So, its more dangerous for you guys?"
Carlos Acosta: "Absolutely."
Larry Miller: "So, instead of kids youre dealing with trained soldiers." REF: http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7300961
Another Las Vegas report states "As feared as they are in our communities, the army they are building behind bars can be even more frightening." REF: http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7305459
From yet another college newspaper report: "Of course there could be gang members on your campus. Youve got bangers in the military now," REF: http://media.www.signal-online.net/media/storage/paper771/news/2007/10/17/Editorial/Gang-Activity.Shouldnt.Come.As.Surprise-3036918.shtml
Conservatives need to stop thinking liberals do not care about illegal immigration. Conservatives need to combine forces with the liberals that are concerned, and there are many. Only then can we hope to force politicians of both parties to act. We need to hang-up the conservative and liberal labels and come together as Americans.
If the government waits, and hell breaks out here in the USA, our citizens will not be asking to see any documentation. They will go after anyone they think an illegal immigrant based on race first and many honest, law-abiding US citizens of Mexican, Central and South American decent are going to be hurt badly! This should not happen, but the government has set the stage for it to happen. Its utter madness!
If this ever happens, hold the politicians accountable.
I honestly believe most Americans are not aware of the dire domestic situation. If MSM had been reporting the violence within our nation in the same manner they were portraying progress in Iraq, it could be different. News broadcasts would begin with reports of “X number of Americans were murdered in the US today by illegal immigrant gangs”.
If such reporting came about, and at that time our citizens decided Iraq was of greater importance than our own nation, then my statement would hold water.
From the US Border Patrol:
WHAT IS AN ARMY? (The invasion of the USA)
The United States of America spent over forty years defending itself against a terrible foe. That foe was the Soviet Union.
The United States built 70,000 nuclear weapons of 65 different types to protect ourselves from a Soviet army of two million men. That two million man army was composed of Christians (the govenment leaders were definately not Christian) who were responsible for fine art, fine music, the first man in space and rockets to the moon.
What makes up an army? An army is made of men between the age of 15 and 35.
What comes across our border by the millions each year? Men between the ages of 15 and 35.
Afghan drug lords are now teamed with Mexican drug cartels to flood our cities with heroin. In Mexico, this Muslim Connnection to the drug cartels has brought beheadings to the streets of border towns. Many Mexican cities are now surrounded by Mexican Army troops and tanks — all to quel the violence. The city of Tijuana had its entire 3,000 man police force disarmed and replaced with Mexican Federal Troops.
What we have below are two images. One is of an enemy we fought tooth and claw for seventy years nearly bankrupting our country. The other we today invite across our border with welfare, free medical care, and more. The centers of many American cities are now controlled by MS-13 and others of the most violent gangs in America’s entire history. These gangs want to kill police and federal agents to rise in reputation among their own kind. Our prisons are now filled with a violent criminal class never seen before anywhere on earth.
In all of the 70 years of the Soviet Union — including the years of the proxy war of Vietnam.— they killed fewer Americans in total than Mexican Illegal Aliens do inside this country in a single year.
What is our Border Patrol to do when these people invade our country? Run and hide....... what they are to do when these Mexican gangs or the Mexican Army invade our country.
http://www.usborderpatrol.com/Border_Patrol901_10.htm
>>>Getting Americans back to doing jobs Americans have grown too lazy to do needs be a priority, and quitting paying them for not doing those jobs is paramount.<<<
You are right - up to a point. There are many ‘entitled’ Americans who sit on their front porchs living off welfare and food stamps.
But. As Duncan Hunter stated last night on the Glenn Beck show: The illegal invaders are undercutting (working for less money) jobs everywhere, and the construction company that has the lowest bid (the one that hires illegals) gets the job - leaving the honest companies (that do NOT hire illegals, and pays full wages) out in the cold.
Look at what is happening to our trucking industry. If an illegal will deliver the same goods to a company for half the cost, the American is out of a delivery.
Why would anyone hire someone to clean their house for $15/hour, when they can call a National company that hires illegals, and pays them half the salary, and charges the homeowner 1/3 less.
The illegal invaders are putting our hard working Americans out of work, too. Most Americans are not lazy, welfare entitled red-necks that won’t do the jobs.
They are being outsourced by the illegals and companies that hire them for slave wages.
Glen Beck had a Texas border sheriff on his show the other night. The sheriff, a guy named West, said the Mexican Army at times places squads of troops as far as 15 miles into U.S. territory. He said these soldiers are there to protect a drug corridor that runs up to Dallas. He said his deputies chased some of these guys back across the border and they were fired at by Mexican troops with 50-caliber sniper rifles. He said the feds were nowhere on this problem.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923817/posts
Alrighty, then...I don’t see where this one has been pinged yet.
And it is chock full of good, insightful comments thanks to some of the more well-known anti-illegal immigration thinkers here at FR.
More good weekend reading material, folks!
Bush and all the other politicians are correct, the illegal immigrants are doing the jobs Americans will not do. What they are not discussing is why this is.
Most of the jobs Americans will not do require Spanish speaking. Consider this carefully.
Public schools throughout the nation have ESL (English as a Second Language) classes for illegal immigrants so they can be fluent in both English and their native language. No such equivalent national education program exists for children born into English speaking households.
If Spanish is a requirement for a job, who will fill these jobs, a person that speaks English, or a person that speaks Spanish with some English?
"Jobs Americans will not do", is a valid statement, but it does not explain why Americans will not do these jobs.
At any given time, we have nearly 3 million American youths, ages 15 - 24 seeking work. These are not kids sitting on their collective butts waiting for handouts. They represent about 10% of their age population.
When unskilled jobs require an applicant to speak Spanish, and our youths have not been prepared to compete for these jobs, the government has a plan that does not include our native citizen population.
For the benefit of our domestic population, it should be made unlawful to require a language other than English as a prerequisite for employment, except those jobs that are passive interpretors only, not people actually doing the labor.
To benefit both our youths and employers, all mandatory SSI contributions by our youths and employers should be ended so long as the youths remain in school.
Here’s a related article discussing the Mexican paramilitary organization, the Zetas:
American youths did Mexican drug cartel’s dirty work
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923875/posts
Thnx for the ping..will read later tonight. BUMP!
Don’t know what to think of this. The video states that Mexican men are armed with AK-46, and other high powered rifles, to protect the drug runners, 200 miles north of the border in AZ.
Could this be some sort of nasty joke?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN9E8YZ4sVU
I don’t think it’s a joke, no. Numbers USA has shown a fair amount of integrity so far, but...
That map of Federal lands stops well shy of the 200 mile mark. It’s 187 miles from Sierra Vista to Metro Center in Phoenix. That’s a diagonal line. Using that scale, 200 miles is off the map.
Those positions look a lot like where I sit when glassing for deer...
Ah, that’s what I thought - the divided highway is I-8, half-way between Gila Bend and Casa Grande, with the Barry Goldwater Bombing Range to the south.
It looked like I-10 to me, west of Picacho Peak, south of Phoenix. Goose-bump time!
Good stuff....thanks!
uh....both.
They’re both very much alike! The mountains are closer to the Interstate along that stretch of -8.
Well said. Destruction comes from within and with open arms.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Thank you and it sure does.
Too bad the MSM collaborates in keeping it away from Joe Sixpack in middle America.
I agree Travis.
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