Skip to comments.New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world (KRISS Super V .45-caliber )
Posted on 10/13/2007 2:06:00 AM PDT by csvset
|Tom Maffin, senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc. demonstrates the company's revolutionary Kriss Super V 45 caliber submachine gun at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.
Stephen M. Katz photos | The Virginian-Pilot
His Ford Crown Victoria disabled by hostile fire, driver Tom Maffin scrambled from the car, crouched behind the hood and sprayed a target with automatic gunfire to cover for a passenger.
Maffin's weapon: a KRISS Super V .45-caliber submachine gun.
If you're military or law enforcement and haven't heard of it, chances are you soon will.
Maffin is senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc., a weapons technology firm that conducts its research and development from a Virginia Beach office park near Lynnhaven Mall. Watch video of the KRISS Super V submachine gun.
By early next year, the Washington-based TDI plans to open a production facility in Virginia Beach to begin manufacturing the submachine gun for police and military use and a .45-caliber semi automatic carbine for the commercial shooting market.
Industry experts say the weapons are unlike any other now on the market and could shake up the firearms world.
What makes the weapons special, company and industry officials say, is a new patented operating system that substantially reduces recoil and muzzle climb when fired.
The recoil, or kick, of a conventional weapon is directed backward into a shooter's shoulder, causing the gun to rise off target. TDI's "Super V" bolt-and-slide mechanism directs the energy downward in front of the trigger.
Company tests indicate the mechanism reduces recoil by 40 to 60 percent and muzzle rise by about 95 percent over conventional gun operating systems.
At a Thursday demonstration for media at a Blackwater USA firing range in Moyock, officials said their system improves accuracy and reduces user fatigue. The submachine gun can be fired with one hand and remain on target.
"This is the future of weapons right here," said Andrew Finn, TDI's senior vice president.
TDI has worked with the Army and special operations forces to develop the technology. It uses Blackwater's facilities to field test the weapons.
Officials set up the disabled vehicle scenario to demonstrate the maneuverability and firepower of the .45-caliber submachine gun, which TDI says is ideal for close-quarter situations the police and military encounter in urban settings.
The gun, which weighs about 5 pounds unloaded and collapses to a length of 16 inches, can be easily carried in helicopters, Humvees and other vehicles, said Maffin, a retired Marine who began working at TDI's Virginia Beach operation about a year ago.
"Seeing this product for the first time in my interview, I was sold," Maffin said. "It's got the knockdown power a lot of guys want."
Members of the media at the Thursday event, heavy in such trade publications as Guns & Ammo and Small Arms Review magazines, were allowed to shoot the submachine gun and the carbine.
"The reduction in recoil is absolutely amazing," said Wendy Henry, who works in Pennsylvania for Women In Scope, a TV series that promotes women's awareness of firearms. "It's very easy to maintain your control over it."
Frank Borelli, a law enforcement and military consultant in Maryland, said the weapon is "going to rock the firearms industry." He has fired the TDI submachine gun but did not attend the event.
"What they're doing is very different," Borelli said.
Some industry experts question whether the company will make significant inroads with military and police, which have moved away from submachine guns - in part because their pistol-caliber rounds can't pierce body armor. The gun's price tag - now expected to retail in the $1,200-to-$1,300 range - also could chill sales.
Company officials said interest is high, noting that they worked with the Army's Picatinny armament research and development arsenal in New Jersey to develop the technology.
These guns are the first product that TDI, a five-year-old subsidiary of Switzerland-based Gamma Research and Technologies Holding SA, has brought to market.
Chuck Kushell, TDI's chief executive officer and director, said the Virginia Beach operation, dubbed Viking Works, will grow once production starts in January or February.
Prototypes of the KRISS Super V .45-caliber submachine gun and carbine are displayed at TDIs production facility in Virginia Beach.
Currently, eight engineers, machinists and gunsmiths work in a 4,000-square-foot facility. Kushell said he expects to more than double the space and add 15 to 20 employees as the company ramps up over the next few months.
To reach the civilian market, the company developed the .45-caliber carbine. Plans call for marketing it primarily to shooting enthusiasts who would use it for competitions and target practice, but it also could be used for hunting.
"This is not going to be a gun for everyone," Kushell said.
Company officials said the Super V mechanism can be adapted to any caliber weapon. Work currently is under way on a 12-gauge shotgun. And the company has won an Army contract valued at a little over $1 million to develop a lighter-weight, more user-friendly .50-caliber machine gun, Kushell said.
Jon W. Glass, (757) 446-2318, email@example.com
sick. too bad my job will never go to .45.
I saw the weapon demonstrated on Future Weapons. It seemed easier to control as they claimed.
I have mixed opinions on the .223 for patrol LEO. Friendly fire on one extreme and the low recoil vs. a shotgun on the other. As for $$$ many small departments fork it over for AR type rifles. So cost would be a factor too, since shot guns are cheaper.
will they be available for private purchase?
from article , appears that semi auto version will be available
Who is still using Mac-10s? The HK UMP will have beat them to the punch in any defense contract. There was a good colt AR converstion (LeFranc) that used tommy gun magazines.
Not in many areas, where politicians spit on the RKBA.
Very cool! Thanks.
NO! Thanks to a Democratic Kongress and a Republican president (Reagan) working in the spirit of bipartisanship to destroy our rights
Not in ANY areas in the usa anyway.
Maybe so, but you know any department or company that can privately finance this is going to snap it up. The grouping on full auto wasn't just impressive for a first time shooter, it was amazing. The "drop" power was just as impressive. Black Water will recoup their expense the first time it's deployed, simply because the one-shot, one kill power here will save lives for their team members.
However yes, there is an issue with getting into to the government agencies. That's what killed the Thompson in the end, isn't it? ROI for development could sustain the company over the long term, despite it's success in the field.
Sadly, with liberals and their minions in control of the government bureaucracy, life saving innovations that increase the overall effectiveness of such military/police teams will stand a poor chance of making to the field.
Ohhhh ... I want one!
Nothing to do with the bang list or self defense.....
But an interesting piece on a new design.
Major question: How fast can it kill Muzzies?
Sorry - if the bullet is going away from you, the recoil is 180° away - towards you.
Newton’s third law - it’s not just a suggestion - it’s the law.
This firearm has the center of the barrel in line with the shooters hand - eliminating angular forces from the equation and reducing muzzle rise. The movement of other components may change the perceived recoil but the net result is still opposite the travel of the projectile.
He’s holding and firing it with one hand! It must be very light. Carbon fiber?
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