[csvset]

See a video at YouTube.

KRISS Super V submachine gun

[thefactor]

sick. too bad my job will never go to .45.

[kingu]

As a long time fan of the Mac-10, I just can’t see this as the Mac Killer that will replace those in the field. I also can’t see them replacing existing surplus equipment that has gone to the various departments in the US.

[Anti-Bubba182]

I saw the weapon demonstrated on Future Weapons. It seemed easier to control as they claimed.

[endthematrix]

"Some industry experts question whether the company will make significant inroads with military and police, which have moved away from submachine guns - in part because their pistol-caliber rounds can't pierce body armor. The gun's price tag - now expected to retail in the $1,200-to-$1,300 range - also could chill sales. "

I have mixed opinions on the .223 for patrol LEO. Friendly fire on one extreme and the low recoil vs. a shotgun on the other. As for $$$ many small departments fork it over for AR type rifles. So cost would be a factor too, since shot guns are cheaper.

[Red Steel]

Directing the recoil downward should’ve been solved years ago. An excellent weapon that KRISS.

[thefactor]

will they be available for private purchase?

[Captain Beyond]

bump

[Caipirabob]

I WANT ONE! For SoFlo palmetto bugs. Those things can fly, you know...

Very cool! Thanks.

[taxcontrol]

Ohhhh ... I want one!

[PeteB570]

Nothing to do with the bang list or self defense.....

But an interesting piece on a new design.

[NTHockey]

Major question: How fast can it kill Muzzies?

[NY.SS-Bar9]

Sorry - if the bullet is going away from you, the recoil is 180° away - towards you.

Newton’s third law - it’s not just a suggestion - it’s the law.

This firearm has the center of the barrel in line with the shooters hand - eliminating angular forces from the equation and reducing muzzle rise. The movement of other components may change the perceived recoil but the net result is still opposite the travel of the projectile.

[RoadTest]

He’s holding and firing it with one hand! It must be very light. Carbon fiber?

[xsrdx]

Interesting to see where it goes. Looks like a decent piece of engineering; the vertical recoil assembly should serve to counteract muzzle rize and dampen felt recoil.

The question is, does it really offer improved control or hit probability over the PDWs from FN and HK, and advanced SMG designs like HK's UMP. It does look sufficiently compact to offer some advantage in concealability for security personnel.

Rifle caliber carbines are the tactical du jour at the moment though, I wonder how much attention this will actually get.

[azhenfud]

Bob didn’t make it - and he wasn’t smiling...

[coloradan]

New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world

Actually, due to unconstitutional laws passed by our "superiors", this gun will have no effect on the firearms world. It might have some impact upon the police and military, though. We peasants can't presently own machine guns newer than 1986 legally under any circumstances.

[Travis McGee]

BANG!

[airborne]

...at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.

Blackwater! LOL! They could get into trouble with a bunch of weapons like this! (sarcasm)

[Liberty Valance]

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[Brilliant]

I would like to see this technology incorporated into a relatively lightweight 38 cal. pistol. I can’t find one that my wife and daughter can handle.