Posted on 10/13/2007 2:06:00 AM PDT by csvset
LOL!
Serfs can't buy stuff like this, no matter what the constitution says.
I hope the local LEO’s do take good care of these fine weapons.
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and the supremes are going to hear the DC gun rights case and that just might do it. the right should never have been taken away, but at least hopefully we'll get it back!
and i wonder if they will make it semi-auto for civilians. is it even legal for civilians to have full-auto guns anymore?
If the police had coordinated shots on the crooks, wouldn't that have had some effect? I would think that no matter what type of armor you have, getting clobbered simultaneously by ten shotgun blasts is going to hurt. They may not penetrate the armor, but then again (to borrow someone else's phraseology) neither will a Mack truck.
Neat gun. I’d want one just for kicks but I’m not sure I’d trust my life to it. Going through a bunch of rounds quickly doesn’t mean the bad guy falls dead, but it does mean I have to reload.
See the shady-looking character in the replied-to post.
;-P
>>The cops were as helpless as babes until the SWAT guys arrived with .223s.
Didn’t they buy/borrow some ARs from a local gun dealer?
PDW’s have their place and that is all this Kriss is IMHO. Might be a great central america or SE Asia urban rig but seems every other bad guy is clad in kevlar these days.....
I am fond of the new H&K 416 version of the M4 carbine . Add the Knight Armament Corps 9 inch version of the M203 and it’s perfect package for LIC missions and small unit ops IMHO.
I’d still snag a old simple MAC-10 w/ a can or a HK UMP vs this KRISS given the choice.
Right now my primary gear is a M1A and a 1911A1.....Old school , proven and reliable for my local needs. Different environments and regions require different tools. One should not be “set” on their choices and train and equip for those arenas they will have to work in.
But ya’ll already know that I’m sure.....;o)
In the Hollywood BOA incident, one cop with a shotgun was about 80 yards from the bad guys, directly across the boulevard, taking cover behind a kiosk. He got off several solid shots from his 12 gauge, which had zero effect due to the bad guys’ full body armor. The bad guys then riddled the kiosk with AK rounds, which went right through it, wounding some officers.
In the exact same situation, a .223 instead of a shotgun would have penetrated the bad guys keflar body armor and probably would have ended the incident long before the SWAT guys showed up.
I just saw a documentary on the North HOllywood shooting, and they never mentioned any cops getting guns or ammo from civilian gun shops. They just showed the SWAT guys belatedly showing up on the scene. I’m not sure if the civlian gun shop story is an urban myth (false) or if the documentary whitewashed it out.
wow, you really did NOT watch the utube video, did you!
I believe that picture was worth thousands of your words, but then, you are a lawyer!
That’s on the Wiki page, for what little that’s worth, but I’d definitely heard it before. Your options (urban myth or whitewashed out) pretty well nail the likely truth.
I really don’t know if it’s true or a myth.
Googling around a little, I come up with a gun shop name and owner who supplied the weapons to the LAPD, a Bob Kahn of B&B Sales. That shop name shows up in other contexts, as well.
The grease gun was lighter and fired slower. Perhaps that was why it was more liked and more accurate. I carried both in Nam. ( along with an M-79, M14, M16, 45, etc.
I have reliability concerns with that manufacturer......but yes that concept.......gotta have a kevlar punch these days.
That company makes the little folding rigs that takes AR mags ......shoot three mags thru it rapid fire. If it didn’t choke ya have a keeper....
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