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Avoiding Kids: How Men Cope With Being Cast as Predators
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 6, 2007 | JEFF ZASLOW

Posted on 09/08/2007 2:52:54 PM PDT by decimon

These days, if Rian Romoli accidentally bumps into a child, he quickly raises his hands above his shoulders. "I don't want to give even the slightest indication that any inadvertent touching occurred," says Mr. Romoli, an economist in La Cañada Flintridge, Calif.

Ted Wallis, a doctor in Austin, Texas, recently came upon a lost child in tears in a mall. His first instinct was to help, but he feared people might consider him a predator. He walked away. "Being male," he explains, "I am guilty until proven innocent."

In San Diego, retiree Ralph Castro says he won't allow himself to be alone with a child -- even in an elevator.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bias; childfree; children; feminazi; feminism; males; men; molestation; molesters; sexoffender; sexoffenders
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To: decimon

“We are. We’re angry with the scuzzbags who molest children and we’re angry with the scuzzbags who make all men suspect for pedophilia.”

OK, fair enough!


101 posted on 09/08/2007 4:28:52 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Fishtalk; All
Here are a few interesting articles on the subject of whether wives kill more husbands or vice versa.
I would suggest you read some of them with a somewhat jaundiced eye, gleening only what makes sense in the greater context of numerous articles.

Short summary at the bottom of this post.


The first article is a little too obtuse on the first page, but actually begins to make some good points on the second.  It's premise is that the figures are probably about equal.  Something that seriously challenges the premise of the MSM and women's advocacy groups.  One of the problems with documenting spousal murders by women, is that they frequently use partners to commit the act, or actually hire someone to do it.  This makes it more difficult to classify some husband deaths accurately.

DISTORTING THE TRUTH ABOUT SPOUSAL MURDER
posted Sunday, 25 September 2005
HOW WOMEN'S ADVOCATES TRY TO FOOL YOU ABOUT SPOUSAL MURDER


The next article was written by Alan Dershowitz.  In it he addresses the ratios wives vs husbands.  Several side issue factoids are included.  For instance, in the focus group, women killed more men that vise versa.  Check the article out for some other intersting asides involving minorities and other factoids.

WIVES ALSO KILL HUSBANDS, QUITE OFTEN
by Alan M. Dershowitz
LINK


The next article references a number of interesting studies.  It's loaded with interesting facts derived from them.  For instance, "Violent Men, Violent Couples (1986) Chapter 3. In a study, 15.5% of men and 11.3% of women reported having hit a spouse while 18.6% of men and 12% of women reported been struck by a spouse. Nisnoff & Bitman, Victimology 4, (1979), pp. 131-140.  This is another interesting read on the subject.

GENDER WAR, SEXUALITY AND LOVE
The Lies: Propaganda used to demonize a non-existant "enemy"
LINK


There are a lot of links out there on the issue of abuse.  I used the phrase 
wives kill husbands "wives kill husbands" for my Google search.  This search brough up articles that had many statistical references that addressed homicides committed by husbands as well as wives.  Click below to review the complete list of articles I ran across.

Google search (pre selected for your convenience)


It is safe to say that wives kill husbands in about the same numbers as husbands kill wives.  It is interesting to note the many side issues associated with this family dynamic though.  For instance, domestic abuse against the spouse is reported to be higher by women against men, except that the men who do carry it out seem to rise to a worse level than the women who do, on the average.  It is also noted that women use weapons at a far greater rate than men do.  It is also noted that outside of marriage, women seem to kill more men than men do women.

It is an intersting topic, and media presentations seldom bare little connection with the facts.


102 posted on 09/08/2007 4:29:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: LibWhacker
But wouldn’t it make them more frigid?

With any luck, it might freeze their vocal chords. Besides, the verbal pollution they spew out is hate speech and should be dealt with accordingly.

103 posted on 09/08/2007 4:30:04 PM PDT by TOneocon (The reason there is so much poverty is because of the uneven distribution of capitalism...Rush)
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To: DoughtyOne
For your sake, DoughtyOne, I'm glad you gave up on this idea. In today's environment, you'd immediately be suspect, rumors would swirl, and sooner or later someone would accuse you of child molestation.

If it's been a feminazi goal to put an end to any and all influences men might have on the country's children, they have been successful.

I'm surprised they can still find men willing to coach kids in organized sports. I wouldn't do it.

104 posted on 09/08/2007 4:33:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: decimon
I was sitting on the floor of a WalMart last month, negotiating with my daughter in the toy section. A WalMart employee came up and asked, rudely, "Is she yours?"

After I said yes, the woman walked away muttering "That looked suspicious."

I was too shocked to say anything, and besides, I was at a crucial point in the negotiation. ;)

105 posted on 09/08/2007 4:33:57 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

I think you’ll note that I never advocated the male indiviual be left alone with the kids. Heck, I’d avoid that like the plague. That doesn’t mean that you couldn’t have the kids around. Done properly, I think men can provide a productive atmosphere for kids, one in which the man wouldn’t have to expose himself to charges of doing bad things. Just use your head.


106 posted on 09/08/2007 4:35:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: LibWhacker

I understand your concern. I appreciate the comments.


107 posted on 09/08/2007 4:38:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: NativeNewYorker

A guy at the photography site, DPReview, left a post titled “So now I’m a prevert.” He’s a grandfather and the unofficial family photographer. At a summer family get-to-gether he was taking pictures of the children in their bathing suits. His wife came up to him to tell him he shouldn’t be doing that. She had to spell out to him what she meant. He was stunned.


108 posted on 09/08/2007 4:39:22 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Scotswife

SCOTSWIFE, you didn’t read the article. This is a quote from the sixth paragraph thereof.

“Children who die of physical abuse are more often victims of female perpetrators, usually mothers, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.”

Apologies accepted for your intemperate and inaccurate calumnies.


109 posted on 09/08/2007 4:40:51 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Fishtalk

You are sick...


110 posted on 09/08/2007 4:40:52 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: decimon

Yesterday a middle school kid came selling stuff for some school function. The wife and I were both home. Course we wanted to participate since our kids did the same thing in our neighbor when in school.

In the old days, I would have invited him in while my wife reviewed the purchase options from his catalog. Instead, I had him sit on the porch while my wife thumbed thru the catalog in our study to find something to order from the kid.

Sadly, this is where we are today in our society. Not knowing the kid nor his parents, I just couldn’t risk inviting him in. Sound un-neighborly? You know it was. But this is where we are.


111 posted on 09/08/2007 4:44:19 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Forfeiture of liberty for dubious security undermines our credibility as a free nation.)
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To: Scotswife
Oh...so that accounts for the numerous posts from jealous male freepers who WISH they had been in THAT class! :)

That's a separate subject of posting.

What you are now referring to is why you don't have as many reported cases of statutory rape by older females.

112 posted on 09/08/2007 4:49:00 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: takenoprisoner

To be honest, I don’t know that I would ever have invited the kid in. Without anything in particular in mind, I’d have felt some unease in the situation.


113 posted on 09/08/2007 4:49:02 PM PDT by decimon
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

LOL....Might save us all.


114 posted on 09/08/2007 4:53:10 PM PDT by TOneocon (The reason there is so much poverty is because of the uneven distribution of capitalism...Rush)
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To: Scotswife

“Why are you guys mad that the media is reporting the truth?”

What truth is that? That men are dangerous?

“Why aren’t you mad about the scuzzbags that created this problem in the first place?”

There ya go again with outrageous claims. These scuzzbags are the problem. Men haters like you are also a problem.


115 posted on 09/08/2007 4:59:54 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver; Scotswife

The problem is statistical.

A)Men commit the vast majority of crimes against kids.
B)The vast majority of men are just guys walking around trying to lead honest lives.

Both statements are true. Which one do you use as a guiding principle when it comes to keeping your kids safe?


116 posted on 09/08/2007 5:02:42 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Scotswife
Do you have evidence that accidents are not accidents?

Depends on what you'll accept as evidence. If we assume that the mother's who finally get arrested after the child dies or subsequent children have similar numerous accidents were also responsible for the earlier "accidents" then its supportable. Like I said, violent men leave less doubt and tend to run, vice cry victim.

My wife is an ER physician and the bulk of the child endangerment, outright abuse that she sees is the result of the mother or female relative. The rapes are from males. As you say, usually mommy's new boyfriend. Who mommy is no doubt attracted to due to his hyper-sexual nature and lack of selectivity.

My point was not male bashing, my point was that the media is being blamed for a problem that was created in the first place by perverts and thugs. The automatic reaction here is to blame women.

To the extent that the media reports the facts, I think that's great. When they promote the general idea that men are all dangerous, I think that's counterproductive.

Without the political female influence, I think you would find male justice on such perps to be far harsher than is currently the case. Perhaps that is something to ponder? Are they high recidivism rates do to misplaced mercy by the female population?

I would certainly prioritize pedophiles for the death penalty over murderers. Murderers may never kill again.

117 posted on 09/08/2007 5:05:51 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Scotswife
http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/PUBLICATIONS/factsheet/fsabuse1.htm

Why would anyone believe your random link? Your link points to an organization run by Kerry donors (the chair and other members of the board were Kerry donors if they appeared at all in opensecrets.org).

Evidently your lack of judgement in choosing websites to support your view is the same lack of judgement that allows you to pronouce all men guilty until proven innocent. Too bad, it's your loss.

118 posted on 09/08/2007 5:09:25 PM PDT by palmer
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To: DoughtyOne

I’d suggest that my original assertion was correct.

Men kill their wives more frequently than the opposite but mostly the differance shows up in spousal abuse. I’d go along with the concept that woman abuse...ie hit and fight physically with their husbands waaaaay more often than is reported.

But when it comes to man versus woman...come on....the man’s going to win most times.

But as to men arranging the murder of their spouse, either via pre-plan or spontaneous, I’d suggest it’s very close to equal.

Many women plotting to kill their husbands do arrange for another party far more frequently than men do.

Still....nah...even your quotes are vague. No way do more women kill their husbands than husbands kill their wives.

But again....spousal murder is way closer in terms of each sex as culprit than most people believe.


119 posted on 09/08/2007 5:11:04 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: silentreignofheroes

Why am I sick and what?...YOU are healthy?

I made a very reasonable statement. And...

....this is what REALLY makes you mad.

I AM RIGHT!

when arguing with someone who is right....often the only rebuttal an idiot can sputter is.....YOU ARE SICK.

Don’t even bother to respond. Your debate is not worth my time and I’ll not respond.


120 posted on 09/08/2007 5:13:28 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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