Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[Just sayin]

I am pro life and liberty FOR ALL.

[T'wit]

>> KEEP YOUR CLOTHES ON!!!!!!

Well, I'll be doggoned, a revolutionary solution! Have you told NARAL?

[wagglebee]

*sniff, sniff*

Is that ozone I smell?

It's bullsh!+ at the very least!

[Brad’s Gramma]

Oh sure. I told them. They were SO pleased to hear of this new procedure!!!

[del4hope]

I can dream, can’t I?

[rbmillerjr]

“To stay off some of the damage caused by the wingnutz to the conservative cause, junior.”

See being a Republican, you simply jump in the way the wind blows, left,right,middle...so it’s no big deal for you to go left to the Giuliani positions. Getting elected is the only thing that matters. But me being a conservative, I think it’s worth fighting for my principles of conservatism....I see the problems caused by liberals and leftist in politics, supported by their friends in the media, and educators. You see conservative Republicans as the problem as you’ve stated repeatedly with your “wingnuts” label.

If you choose to support a liberal candidate or justify a liberal candidate in the Republican primary...you are what you are - cherry.

[Just sayin]

This person is so convinced of his/her position, that the easiest way to avoid confrontation is to ignore recent posts.

Incorrent, I am reading this thread and it's posts to me one at a time. and I will answer them one at a time as I have been doing all along.

[tiredoflaundry]

“I want to end abortion as it is today and see to it that no more death occurs for the unborn”

Ok.., that is the "transplant" solution you advocate. Got that......... don't see anything like that happening in my lifetime, but I'm trying to understand your point.

Sooooooooooo, in the meantime.......what happens between then & now? That is where you lose me.

[del4hope]

ROFL!

[Brad’s Gramma]

Bump your question, TOL.

I’ll BBL....for, um, an answer?

[Spiff]

There was a thread here a couple of months ago but I cannot spend time tracking it down. If you really are interested I am sure you could find it.

Baloney. I've been tracking everything I can find on Giuliani's abortion position, specifically the Partial Birth Abortion ban, and I've NEVER seen what you're talking about. I call BS!

[tiredoflaundry]

LOL.......... I don’t have a headache! :o)

[T'wit]

>> but unfortunately a key source of funds has pulled out of the project.

Pulling out, in time, is in fact another solution that hasn't been brought out here.

[tiredoflaundry]

Later tater!

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Without liberty, law loses its nature and its name, and becomes oppression. Without law, liberty also loses its nature and its name, and becomes licentiousness.

James Wilson

[Brad’s Gramma]

Oh.....the thread gets FAR more interesting on abortion...read on, Spiff...

[Just sayin]

I don’t disagree that there are complications. There are plenty of them to go around.

I will say this, woman B made the direct choice to be pregnant, no ifs ands or buts. Otherwise, why would they accept the pregnancy to begin with?

Thye argument that the pregnancy was unintentional would not hold water in the case would it?

As with adoption, parental rights are tranferred. Does pandemoinium ensue from adoption? Would this put you against adoption?

[Tennessee Nana]

Hi TOL

The asprin wasnt for a headache...

ROFL

[wagglebee]

Sooooooooooo, in the meantime.......what happens between then & now? That is where you lose me.

In the mean time, babies are slaughtered at the rate of well over 3000 per day.

[del4hope]

Still sounds like the woman is doing the chosing to me.