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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: jedward

TANKS...;0)


6,261 posted on 04/23/2007 9:04:29 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Kevmo

Great post. It’s worthy of it’s own vanity thread. Don’t let it get lost in this monster thread.


6,262 posted on 04/23/2007 9:05:27 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (www.washingtonspeakers.com/speakers/PlayVideo.cfm?speakerid=3996&contentid=484&type=asx&res=high)
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To: politicalwit

I’m going to watch Mr. Holland’s Opus, because all of your Opi belong to us.

Opus writers - we are your symphony, and our lives are the melodies....


6,263 posted on 04/23/2007 9:06:17 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: higgmeister
I appreciated him after 9/11. I admired how he shoved the grapefruit in the face of that Saudi Prince. I thought for a few weeks that he might be more moderate on the 2A position for the rest of us in the frontier than he was in the five Boroughs. I was extremely surprised that he could still stand for PBA even after he didn't need to. It is easy to see now that he is more liberal than a "Rockefeller Republican" or even a "Roosevelt Republican." But what I'm truly shocked to learn on this thread is that "Rudy-mania" appears to be a mental disorder.

They think that Rudy will pick judges in the mold of Scalia, Thomas, Roberts...etc.

At this stage, even months before the first primary, to back a candidate who thinks that there is a "right to an abortion" is simply the wrong strategy.

I wouldn't call it a mental disorder...and I certainly wouldn't be so desperately afraid of Rudy in the face of a few DBM push polls as some here seem to be.

Fred will easily win the nomination.

6,264 posted on 04/23/2007 9:06:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: feinswinesuksass
Yeah, it's like watching the episode from Twilight Zone where the neighbors convinced themselves that "the guy over there" was an alien and ended up killing him.

The site is loaded with Ed Begley,Sr.s

Ash must be having the time of his life watching this car wreck.

6,265 posted on 04/23/2007 9:08:29 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: FreeReign

You can’t totally blame all of them. They have Hillary Derangement Syndrome.


6,266 posted on 04/23/2007 9:08:40 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (www.washingtonspeakers.com/speakers/PlayVideo.cfm?speakerid=3996&contentid=484&type=asx&res=high)
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To: DCPatriot
My point was that the site that shall not be named is simply a convenient forum where they can stay in touch and debate current events and issues...just like FR. It is not an anti FR site.

That site is nothing like FR. It was started by a banned FR poster. It contains a public forum and private invitation only forum. Your argument would be much more convincing if a link to one of it's threads hadn't been posted here. In that linked thread, members had gotten careless and were discussing disrupting FR in a public thread. Not too long after the thread was linked to FR the thread was pulled from that board. Enough of us saw it before they had their clean-up party to know exactly what that website is all about.

6,267 posted on 04/23/2007 9:11:05 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: processing please hold
How do you know?

Because I have a very good working knowledge of how law enforcement works, and I understand what would interest them and what wouldn't. Your post, I'm afraid, simply isn't going to raise an eyebrow.

Are you willing to open yourself up for the FBI?

Open myself up? I'm not sure what that means, but I've certainly never opened myself up to anyone before, and I can't see me starting now.

Are you willing to risk anything no matter how small?

It would depend on how small is small, but I'd probably be willing to risk the small stuff.

Or do you just sit behind your keyboard tap tap tapping?

LOL ... when I type, there are no tap tap taps. It sounds like thunder!

6,268 posted on 04/23/2007 9:11:33 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: LdSentinal

I am ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE you are asking the wrong person.

But I can give you a glimpse of hell. It is the absence of God.

Here’s an analogy to work with. 2 parents have kids who are very willful and the kids want an area in the house where the parents have absolutely no presence or supervision or authority. The kids get what they want and they’re in charge. So the parents set up the back room to be the kids’ room. They never go there, never look in, and agree not to help or do anything even if they hear screaming. In a few weeks, that room would become a horrible cesspool of garbage and whatnot, perhaps even a dangerous place. The room represents an absence of parental loving authority, just like hell would be the absence of God’s love & authority & mercy & looking out for what’s best for us.


6,270 posted on 04/23/2007 9:12:00 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
BlueSkies was upset that someone was correcting his spelling

No different from FR! LOL

6,271 posted on 04/23/2007 9:12:43 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Twink
I haven’t read all the posts on this topic

How could you, its impossible to read them all. :)
6,272 posted on 04/23/2007 9:12:54 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: CharlesWayneCT
TANKS for that list...all should know... Image and video hosting by TinyPic
6,273 posted on 04/23/2007 9:13:03 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Chena

: )


6,274 posted on 04/23/2007 9:13:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: MrEdd

That is an unfair thing to say. Lots of us have been pro-life all along.


6,275 posted on 04/23/2007 9:13:23 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Politicalmom

On the other hand, it would be a death sentence for any other candidate to request equal time, if it caused the networks to pull the repeats.

And given the short periods he’s on the show each week, it would hardly be worth it, if it even would be required.

After all, it’s not like Thompson is pitching himself on the show.


6,276 posted on 04/23/2007 9:13:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kevmo

Thank you for your great post.


6,277 posted on 04/23/2007 9:14:22 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: MrEdd

That’s right. It is sad and then they have a hard time forgiven themselves. G’night.


6,278 posted on 04/23/2007 9:14:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

As far as I recall, I haven’t posted any vanity threads in my time as a freeper and I’d like to keep it that way. If someone else posts their own SUPO as a vanity, I’d be happy to re-post within that thread.


6,279 posted on 04/23/2007 9:15:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo

That’s a nice story, but I’m not Christian.


6,280 posted on 04/23/2007 9:15:54 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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