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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Hildy

“I’m already gone”

Apparently not.


5,621 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:50 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: BykrBayb; Jim Robinson
From what I’ve been told (by the resident trolls) practically everyone who supports the mission statement here is either duping JR,

That mission statement has been there a long time. I don't remember having any input to that. If I did, Jim Robinson would know. Those were the rules when I signed on here, and I did nothing to circumvent them.

5,622 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:58 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: conservative in nyc

Just don’t use my name again... at all.


5,623 posted on 04/23/2007 4:59:02 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Jim Robinson
To the best of my knowledge, Forbes is NOT an abortionist, feminist, homosexualist, illegal alien loving, gun grabbing liberal. Giuliani is. Those who continue trying to push this socialist butcher off onto the rest of us are going to feel a whole LOT of pushing back. This I promise. And those who can't bear the truth about Giuliani and can't understand why conservatives outright reject such a repulsive liberal, should get out of the kitchen now, because we've barely begun to fight. I'm making it my own personal goal to knock Giuliani out of the primaries, simply by revealing the stark ugly truth about him. Mostly with words out of his own filthy mouth.

Magnificent. Jim, you are the man.

5,624 posted on 04/23/2007 4:59:45 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: Hildy; Bigh4u2
People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?

Hildy, as far as conservatism goes, you're wrong about damn near everything.

5,625 posted on 04/23/2007 5:00:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Tennessee Nana

You go, Nana... Woo Hoo!!!!

#5,000...!!!


5,626 posted on 04/23/2007 5:00:52 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Evenin, Dita!


5,627 posted on 04/23/2007 5:01:05 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Hildy

“People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?”

You’ve been wrong about Rudy, so what makes you think you are right about conservatives?

A conservative is more than just the WOT and if you were one, you would know that.

You stated “I don’t give a damn about abortion” which makes it tough to see you as anything other than a ‘one issue voter’ and not a conservative.

Sorry you can’t see that now. But maybe one day, when you wonder, if Rudy gets in office, any other ‘liberal’, ‘what happened to our freedoms’ you may change your mind.

But I assure you, there are plenty of Conservatives that will fight to make sure that doesn’t happen. But if, for some reason we may fail, then you’ll have a lot to ‘reflect on’ in your later years.

Take care.


5,628 posted on 04/23/2007 5:01:33 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: DCPatriot
“Howlin is not a Rudybot. last time we noticed...her tagline was “Honk if you like Fred Thompson.”

Go look at her home page. She supports Rudy. She hasn’t used that tagline for awhile now.

By the way, every one of those people you mentioned, who were suspended, or banned, have no one to blame but themselves. Victim-hood is not a conservative value.

5,629 posted on 04/23/2007 5:01:36 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Make it to 6000 before bedtime?


5,630 posted on 04/23/2007 5:01:38 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: don-o
Is this an initiation of some sort?

Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner!!!

5,631 posted on 04/23/2007 5:02:11 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Hildy
You underlying thesis...that I give a damn about this site...is wrong."

Hildy, your thought provoking and blunt honesty of your posts have entertained me for years.

But I am truly deeply sorry to read what appears to be your Opus from FR. I wish that weren't so..

Be well..sw

5,632 posted on 04/23/2007 5:02:48 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Hildy
"The WOT is THE biggest issue for me"

Get a spine. Don't worry about the WOT. Abortion and gay marriage are more likely to damage the fabric of this country more than people blowing themselves up with car bombs. We are not worried about nuclear China or Russia and smaller pipsqueaks can be managed easier.

5,633 posted on 04/23/2007 5:02:51 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
I don’t see any of the GOP Presidential candidates who are considered either too liberal on social issues, upsetting conservatives too often during their entire duration as politicians, or having too much negative personal baggage on them as eventually becoming the final GOP choice for ‘08 President, and this includes but is not limited to all three present GOP first tier Presidential candidates Romney, Rudy, and McCain.”

You obviously aren’t paying attention.

5,634 posted on 04/23/2007 5:03:14 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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To: bjs1779

Same here, but apparently there were a few who signed on hoping to change them. Sucks to be them.


5,635 posted on 04/23/2007 5:03:31 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: OMalley
No, she was 35 her last birthday, she's our oldest. I was a teenager when I had her.

Are you looking at my home page. I guess I need to up date it, but hey, I don't get any older if I don't update it.

5,636 posted on 04/23/2007 5:04:26 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Hildy
I’m already gone.

Thank you

5,637 posted on 04/23/2007 5:04:49 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: Spiff

It looks like they’ve had this all planned out for some time. Same signup dates, right?


5,638 posted on 04/23/2007 5:06:01 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

LOL! my email still has the number 35 after it!! thats how old i was when i opened it! i feel the same way, if i dont change it, im almost 10 years younger:)


5,639 posted on 04/23/2007 5:06:44 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Bigh4u2; Hildy

Bigh4u2, you and others embarrass us.


5,640 posted on 04/23/2007 5:06:48 PM PDT by EveningStar
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