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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Bigh4u2

People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?


5,601 posted on 04/23/2007 4:52:13 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: All

The Schwarzenegger virus is what afflicts Guiliani, get elected by any means then turn back into a liberal like before. What are the Republicans going to do about it?

Look what is happening with Gov Christ in Florida ... the guy is turning into a liberal fruit cake right before our eyes. He met with the one sheet girls today.

Don’t fall for it. If Rudy runs, elect the real thing. Throwing rocks at the other side works better than trying to explain why your guy is turning into a liberal nut. If Rudy is the candidate, I won’t vote, let Mrs Bill Clinton win and then load up the rock box. As Dingy Harry is finding out ...


5,602 posted on 04/23/2007 4:52:45 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t see any of the GOP Presidential candidates who are considered either too liberal on social issues, upsetting conservatives too often during their entire duration as politicians, or having too much negative personal baggage on them as eventually becoming the final GOP choice for ‘08 President, and this includes but is not limited to all three present GOP first tier Presidential candidates Romney, Rudy, and McCain.


5,603 posted on 04/23/2007 4:53:12 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Bigh4u2; don-o

Is it too late to amend my earlier statement? What Bigh4u2 said.


5,604 posted on 04/23/2007 4:53:37 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Hildy

I couldn’t care less about whether people are gay or straight. In fact I count gay people among my friends. I’m more concerned about my 2nd Amendment rights, abortion, fiscal responsibility and the WOT. And I’m not sold on Rudy being the best guy for any of the four.


5,605 posted on 04/23/2007 4:54:07 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: DCPatriot

“Howlin, Peach, Pukin Dog, and sinkspur are and/or were FreeRepublic treasures”.

Why are you pinging me for Howlin...what’s your play...Peach was stupid and asked to be banned, PukinDog left on his own accord and free will because his allegiance is to the Party and not conservative principle...as for MadIvan his bully wussy tactics against me will never be forgotten...so screw that twerpl


5,606 posted on 04/23/2007 4:54:35 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Hildy

You be wrong.


5,607 posted on 04/23/2007 4:54:54 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: BykrBayb

“Is it too late to amend my earlier statement? “

It’s ok. I knew what you meant.

:)


5,608 posted on 04/23/2007 4:55:11 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Hildy
You underlying thesis...that I give a damn about this site...is wrong.

You've been posting for 9 years on a site that you don't give a damn about. I guess that explains why you didn't seem to mind defying its conservative mission with all your support of the most liberal GOP presidential candidate in the history of the known universe - a liberal that is so liberal that it makes most Democrats blush. So, when you do leave, frankly Hildy, I won't give a damn.

5,609 posted on 04/23/2007 4:55:18 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Hildy
“You underlying thesis...that I give a damn about this site...is wrong.”

I’ve always wondered about that Hildy. Thanks for finally admitting to it.

5,610 posted on 04/23/2007 4:55:40 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
I don’t see any of the GOP Presidential candidates who are considered either too liberal on social issues, upsetting conservatives too often during their entire duration as politicians, or having too much negative personal baggage on them as eventually becoming the final GOP choice for ‘08 President

This is a joke, right?

5,611 posted on 04/23/2007 4:55:51 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: OMalley
i bet you were perdy:)

I have no idea. My eyes were crying too much to see myself in the mirror, they wouldn't focus.

I don't dally either.

My girls, when they're here, think it's a law or something that you're required to stay in the shower till all the hot water's gone then it's time to get out.

5,612 posted on 04/23/2007 4:55:52 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Hildy
I didn’t know Republicans were against Gay people.

Here we go again. Conservatives seek to uphold the primacy of the family as always understood to be the union of one man and one woman and the children they are blessed with. Republicans may have another agenda. Who can tell these days?

5,613 posted on 04/23/2007 4:56:33 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: Hildy
People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?

You're wrong. I don't agree with giving anyone special rights based on their sexual, or declared sexual activities.

5,614 posted on 04/23/2007 4:56:51 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Jim Robinson
I presume that was your opus.

Nothing gets by you, does it?

5,615 posted on 04/23/2007 4:57:02 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Mr. Silverback

Well somebody’s got to win, and frankly Hillary is just personally disliked by many voters, as well as by many Democratic Party movers and shakers (as has been seen in the past couple of weeks with the fundraiser defections to Obama). And anyone’s who’s been paying attention knows that Rudy scores a whole lot higher than Hillary in the honesty and integrity categories. And Rudy simply doesn’t have Hillary’s mile-long enemy list.


5,616 posted on 04/23/2007 4:57:35 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: processing please hold

My son too!!! i have to shower in the afternoons just to get hot water LOL!! what the heck they all do in there?!

i can relate! with the contacts, i didnt even get to enjoy them and they were colored! my eyes were stabbed to death by the time i got them in lol!! i finally gave up!


5,617 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:04 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Hildy
You underlying thesis...that I give a damn about this site...is wrong.

Than why bother with posting? Is this an initiation of some sort?

5,618 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:10 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: Hildy

“People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?”

We don’t like gays,blacks, hispanics, asians, jews and unborn babies/sarc off........conservatives are hateful, your liberal tactics light you up.


5,619 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:15 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Hildy; Jim Robinson
“You’re losing it, Jim. You really are. You just want to ban me so badly, don’t you?”

For you and others who claim the same, Jim is NOT losing it, nor has he ever lost it. IT is his value system and beliefs, to which he holds firm, with valor, integrity, and courage. I am proud to be a member of HIS conservative website!

5,620 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:29 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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