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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Eric Blair 2084
There are two issues that will turn me off to Rudy. If I ever hear a word about Global Warning or a need to perform social engineering to coerce people to quit smoking and lose weight whether they want to voluntarily or not, he can forget any possible support from me. To me, Global Warming hysteria and Nanny State Behavior Syndrome aren’t a disease in and of itself, they are lithmus test indicating a much more serious disease..what you and I call Socialism.

Ask, and you shall receive. Heck, I've even got video:

Giuliani Press Conference - 2/12/07 - (Video)

Question: Do you believe there is a such thing as "global warming" and what about Governor Schwartzenegger's position - do you support him in the legislation (unintelligible)

Rudy: I do. I do believe there's global warming. Yes. And...and I...I think there are...I'm not a scientist all I can do is look at the reports. I think the last one said that...uh...ummm...fir-fir-first of all there's definitely global warming as far as I can tell. I guess the big question has always been how much is it, how much of it is happening because of just natural climate changes and progressions and how much is happening because of human intervention - carbon in particular - and the overwhelming majority of the scientists believe that there's significant human cause that's making it more difficult, making it worse.

And I've always thought the debate was a little bit...uh...um...unnecessary because most of the things that are happening with global warming are happening with pollution and we should be, we should be dealing with pollution anyway. So, it seems to me there's a community of interest here to do the things that are necessary to reduce polluting the environment.

Question: Have you seen "Inconvenient Truth" and there are some people that say that there aren't a lot of solutions that are posed. You've basically condemned the movie.

Rudy: Oh, I didn't condemn it. Condemn is a really bad...condemn...condemn...condemn is when you put somebody in jail or s...something like that. What I found...what I found indadequate...what I found inadequate about the movie wasit really didn't have any (microphone problems - laughter) I thought this was a technology conference...Um...I didn't think that it had any real strong suggestions about how, about how to deal with it. What...what...I would have been much more satisfied with that movie if it had listed, you know our...uh...what kind of research is going to be done on carbon sequestration, how are you gonna cuh...how are you gonna create clean coal. Is coal the way to go? How much are you going to increase ethanol and uh how much research and development and exactly how can that reduce the problem?

These are all things that we have to do. And we don't do them because of the fluctuations very often of the price of gasoline. And we don't do them because there are special interests that stop them and I did not detect in the movie the same zeal to take on those special interests as I did in explaining the problem.

And here is some of Giuliani's history on anti-smoking laws and ordinances:

January 10, 1995 - Mayor Rudolph Giuliani signs the Smoke-Free Air Act, which bans smoking in virtually all public places, with a few exceptions; among them, restaurants seating under 35 patrons, separately ventilated rooms and free-standing bars.

Even anarchic New York City has adopted a comprehensive smoking ordinance that goes into effect this month (April 1995), for the first time extending smoking restrictions to outdoor areas, such as parks and stadiums. "This is where the rest of the world is going," explained Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.


3,261 posted on 04/22/2007 5:20:00 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: wagglebee
Who would play Rudy? PeeWee Herman?

ROTFLMAO!!

3,262 posted on 04/22/2007 5:20:04 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: EternalVigilance

Hopkins is too “intense” to play someone so shallow.


3,263 posted on 04/22/2007 5:20:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: KATIE-O
Only liberals talk about a "Hate Zones." Toleration doesn't include caving on fundamental issues such as abortion, end of life protections (e.g. Terri Schiavo), defending 2nd Amendment rights, opposing the homosexual agenda (e.g. marriage rights, adoptions, in your face "discrimination" policies, etc.).

You and your ilk think that practical politics necessarily cause "accommodation" for these and other issues.

We disagree and believe they are fundamental to our values, our beliefs, and yes, our politics. No we will not cave to candidates such as Giuliani or McCain on threats of, "Well you will elect Hillary Clinton then." No we won't. We won't elect Clinton IF we nominate someone who can stand for something other than a liberal platform.

Jim Robinson is correct to post this thread and cause reactions from those who should be positive on the Free Republic agenda. Those who don't like it, can lump it. And don't take offense, just leave if you don't like it. We don't hate you, or anybody. Maybe we just believe in something different -- God, patriotism, pro-life, gun ownership, freedom. We won't give in, compromise, or give up. We will fight for what we know is right, for our families, for our country.

3,264 posted on 04/22/2007 5:20:58 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: wagglebee
Very sad but true.

I ain't got nuthin' against no kangaroo. :-)

3,265 posted on 04/22/2007 5:21:04 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: wagglebee

Canadians are a friendly bunch of folks, overall.
Winnepeg is too cold for human beings : )


3,266 posted on 04/22/2007 5:21:25 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Petronski
His base of support is too broad.

His FR base of support was two broads, and they've been banned.

LOL!

3,267 posted on 04/22/2007 5:21:34 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: wagglebee

Can we hold you to that?? LOL!


3,268 posted on 04/22/2007 5:21:38 PM PDT by veronica
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To: loboinok
Since he has conceded that it hasn’t worked and is riddled with loopholes...he’ll have little choice.

Whenever I hear that..."it hasn't worked"...I have to wonder what that means. Do it mean it hasn't "finished off the First Amendment" sufficiently? /s

3,269 posted on 04/22/2007 5:21:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Never said it, never have. Get a handle on posting. You're way out of line

Then can you explain what the hell you were talking about in Post #2319!!?

3,270 posted on 04/22/2007 5:22:02 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You’re welcome.


3,271 posted on 04/22/2007 5:22:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: veronica

“Except Rudy took down the REAL Italian Mafia in NY.”

Excuse me, if you don’t mind. I’m new here, but please check both your reality and naivity bearings.


3,272 posted on 04/22/2007 5:23:38 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Jim Robinson
To the best of my knowledge, Forbes is NOT an abortionist, feminist, homosexualist, illegal alien loving, gun grabbing liberal. Giuliani is.

One other minor point.

Forbes isn't running for President.

L

3,273 posted on 04/22/2007 5:23:40 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The last time I was in Winterpeg was it was late November, I packed for the Artic and it was 60 degrees when I got off the plane!


3,274 posted on 04/22/2007 5:23:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“I count 10 to date”

Bags bagged?


3,275 posted on 04/22/2007 5:24:31 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: KATIE-O
You are brainwashed haters who have no tolerance for anyone outside your little fascist circle. After the bad taste leaves my mouth, I will pray for all of you.

Nice rant. I give it a 9. Excellent spelling and syntax. Judicious use of CAPS. Could have been a 10 had you not used the f word.

(Not an endorsement. Simply expressing my recognition for some originality. I can tell you worked hard and maybe even primal screamed.)

3,276 posted on 04/22/2007 5:25:11 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

bump, good post but a little bit over the top on emotionalism.


3,277 posted on 04/22/2007 5:25:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: wagglebee
Who would play Rudy? PeeWee Herman?

Nahhh,,,PeeWee Herman could never pass as Marilyn Monroe or a Chorus Girl. Anyway, PeeWee's personal life isn't anywhere near the TRAIN WRECK that Rudy's is....llol

3,278 posted on 04/22/2007 5:26:25 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: Bigh4u2

There are so many great posts... Oy! ... I can’t acknowledge them all, unfortunately. This is a great thread for defining and learning. Classic FR.


3,279 posted on 04/22/2007 5:26:31 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BUMP!


3,280 posted on 04/22/2007 5:27:17 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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