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To: Eric Blair 2084
There are two issues that will turn me off to Rudy. If I ever hear a word about Global Warning or a need to perform social engineering to coerce people to quit smoking and lose weight whether they want to voluntarily or not, he can forget any possible support from me. To me, Global Warming hysteria and Nanny State Behavior Syndrome aren’t a disease in and of itself, they are lithmus test indicating a much more serious disease..what you and I call Socialism.

Ask, and you shall receive. Heck, I've even got video:

Giuliani Press Conference - 2/12/07 - (Video)

Question: Do you believe there is a such thing as "global warming" and what about Governor Schwartzenegger's position - do you support him in the legislation (unintelligible)

Rudy: I do. I do believe there's global warming. Yes. And...and I...I think there are...I'm not a scientist all I can do is look at the reports. I think the last one said that...uh...ummm...fir-fir-first of all there's definitely global warming as far as I can tell. I guess the big question has always been how much is it, how much of it is happening because of just natural climate changes and progressions and how much is happening because of human intervention - carbon in particular - and the overwhelming majority of the scientists believe that there's significant human cause that's making it more difficult, making it worse.

And I've always thought the debate was a little bit...uh...um...unnecessary because most of the things that are happening with global warming are happening with pollution and we should be, we should be dealing with pollution anyway. So, it seems to me there's a community of interest here to do the things that are necessary to reduce polluting the environment.

Question: Have you seen "Inconvenient Truth" and there are some people that say that there aren't a lot of solutions that are posed. You've basically condemned the movie.

Rudy: Oh, I didn't condemn it. Condemn is a really bad...condemn...condemn...condemn is when you put somebody in jail or s...something like that. What I found...what I found indadequate...what I found inadequate about the movie wasit really didn't have any (microphone problems - laughter) I thought this was a technology conference...Um...I didn't think that it had any real strong suggestions about how, about how to deal with it. What...what...I would have been much more satisfied with that movie if it had listed, you know our...uh...what kind of research is going to be done on carbon sequestration, how are you gonna cuh...how are you gonna create clean coal. Is coal the way to go? How much are you going to increase ethanol and uh how much research and development and exactly how can that reduce the problem?

These are all things that we have to do. And we don't do them because of the fluctuations very often of the price of gasoline. And we don't do them because there are special interests that stop them and I did not detect in the movie the same zeal to take on those special interests as I did in explaining the problem.

And here is some of Giuliani's history on anti-smoking laws and ordinances:

January 10, 1995 - Mayor Rudolph Giuliani signs the Smoke-Free Air Act, which bans smoking in virtually all public places, with a few exceptions; among them, restaurants seating under 35 patrons, separately ventilated rooms and free-standing bars.

Even anarchic New York City has adopted a comprehensive smoking ordinance that goes into effect this month (April 1995), for the first time extending smoking restrictions to outdoor areas, such as parks and stadiums. "This is where the rest of the world is going," explained Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.


3,261 posted on 04/22/2007 5:20:00 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

Spiff, I read what you wrote and I even watched the video. Never let it be said that I didn’t listen to my fellow FReepers. FReepers are on the ball.

But for crying out loud, in the first part as it relates to global warning, he is again doing what a good politician would do. Pay lip service to appease the whacko environmentalists and then do nothing other than promote free market solutions like Nuclear Power Plants, and ethanol subsidies to make up for the fact that it’s still 5x more expensive to produce ethanol than petroleum...but heck I’ll make an exception to my belief in free markets in this case if it means American midwestern farmers can become energy barons while the Saudi’s end up poor.

As far as this nanny state Rudy smoking ban, trans fat ban stuff is concerned, we have already had this conversation after pissant posted his hit piece trying to convince people that Rudy is a nanny stater.

Again, don’t get me wrong. If you want to vote against Rudy because he is a pro abortion, gun grabbing public serpent and make your case on this forum to persuade others to follow you, than God bless you. That’s what this forum and the free exchange of ideas is all about.

However, if you try to spread false information and try to convince people that Rudy is in favor of draconian health initiatives to coerce people to do the right thing and save the state money on Medicaid and Medicare expenses, you are wrong.

I hope you and everyone else will take my word for it. I don’t feel like posting the orgy of information to prove that Rudy is not a nanny stater again.

But if somebody calls Shenanigans, I will have to.


3,647 posted on 04/22/2007 7:41:56 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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