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The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base
vanity | 12 March 2007 | Trueblackman

Posted on 03/12/2007 8:26:01 PM PDT by Trueblackman

The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base

The Republican Party better get its act together like yesterday and realize that without its Conservative base, that it will be left to wonder in the wilderness for many more years to come.

Republicans in Congress are now back in the minority after 12 years of majorities granted to them by the base who envisioned the death of big government agencies like the Departments of Education and Energy with control of the purse strings from 1994-2006 and in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush the base demanded the unabated end of the Clinton Era Tactics of manipulation federal government numbers and phony government surpluses.

Conservatives felt that Bush and company would govern like Conservatives, but after 6 years the base saw no victories as the federal government grew bigger under Bush with “No Child Left Behind” and “Medicare Part D.” Bush refused to fight for our most Conservatives Nominees allowing them to be blocked for years on end by a minority within the minority Democrats Caucus in the Senate. Bush’s “new tone” in Washington DC amounted to the abandonment of his Conservative Principals within 6 months of his first term.

Liberal Republicans like John McCain were allowed to cut deals behind close doors on Judicial Nominees, Taxes and Immigration, while the Conservatives in the Senate seem dumbfounded and refused to stop this self-proclaimed maverick and his band of merry sellouts. McCain seems to take joy in stabbing the base in the back every chance he gets, gleefully going on MSNBC to be praised by Chris Matthews, because he feels that he is somehow owed the Presidency and blames the base for his 2000 Primary defeats to George W. Bush. Now McCain wants to be the 2008 Nominee, “Sorry John, but paybacks are a bi*ch” and I will not vote for what amounts to the Republican Party’s Manchurian Candidate.

The House Managers became fat, dumb and happy and governed more like Republicrats than Conservatives and they thought that the fears of impeachment, higher taxes and liberal control of the House would be enough to rally the base to their banner again in 2006, but this time their rally cries fell on deaf ears and their majorities were lost.

The Republican Party still refuses to learn from 2006’s mid-term election defection by the base, Republicans need to realize that they live and die by the votes of the base and that any candidate that does not appeal to the base will not receive our votes. It is better to lose to a Democrat, than to elect a CINO (Conservative In Name Only).

Now as we enter the 2008 Presidential Race we have Northern Eastern Republicans like Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney trying to sell themselves to the base as having Conservative Credentials, but when one looks at their records and how they have governed, it has been anything but Conservative, yet there are those in the Republican Party who are trying to sell Giuliani as our best bet in 2008. The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principal than back a Liberal Republican IN Name Only like Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and John McCain, who will end up stabbing me in the back anyway and govern himself by poll and focus groups.

The base would rather lose on principals than win out of convenience and the leaders of the Republican Party better start realizing that.


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To: Trueblackman
Draft Haley bump

Anyway, don't get too down. Look what the D.C. court just did concerning RTBA. Fifteen years ago we would have thought that was just a pipe dream.

Dubya did listen on judges, which has been my big thing.

41 posted on 03/12/2007 8:51:53 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Paperdoll

Nobody is shoving Romney down our throats....he is the one the left is very afraid of.


42 posted on 03/12/2007 8:52:17 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Trueblackman

Many so called conservatives have no fight left in them, so fat have they become on their "successes", all the while gorging themselves on the excesses a party led astray has "garnered" for them the last 12 years.

Thanks for posting your thoughts and this thread.


43 posted on 03/12/2007 8:52:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: BurtSB
Boo Whoooo I not getting my way so far.

Boy that stuff is really getting old. If conservatives want to stand on principle what's it to you. Not everyone feels comfy making a deal with the devil.

44 posted on 03/12/2007 8:53:24 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Rudy in drag makes Edwards look like Charles Atlas.)
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To: RebelBanker
Guiliani has some liberal positions on social issues.

Get real, he is liberal on ALL social issues. And gun control, etc.etc. hes a lib, no question about it.
45 posted on 03/12/2007 8:54:01 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Verax

...and your point is that this makes you feel better?


46 posted on 03/12/2007 8:54:11 PM PDT by restornu ("Try to Lead by Example, Not by Trampling on Another!")
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To: supercat

>>>As far as I can tell, the long-term effect of electing RINOs is to ensure that the Republicans of the future will be more leftist than the Democrats of today.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791535/posts
Gay Republicans seek recognition (Rudy Mentioned)

Excerpt:

These days, it seems as if it is good politics for conservatives to address the annual convention of gay Republicans.

"Keep pushing the Republican Party because you're pushing it in the right direction," New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani told the Log Cabin Republican convention over the weekend.


47 posted on 03/12/2007 8:54:18 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave

VOTE 3rd PARTY IN 2008!



48 posted on 03/12/2007 8:55:28 PM PDT by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: Trueblackman
12 years of majorities granted to them by the base

I think some would say the party appeases the base while attempting to coo the so-called swing voters in the middle.

49 posted on 03/12/2007 8:55:28 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: restornu

It's humor. Relax.


50 posted on 03/12/2007 8:55:44 PM PDT by Verax ("Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated - Planned Parenthood President,")
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To: Trueblackman

Amen brother.

Run Fred, run!


51 posted on 03/12/2007 8:56:02 PM PDT by NucSubs (That's so gay.)
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To: Trueblackman

We have been sold out by the GOP. The GOP is a business, not an ideal.


52 posted on 03/12/2007 8:57:09 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: TheLion
Nobody is shoving Romney down our throats....he is the one the left is very afraid of.

John McCain has demonstrated he does not believe in the First Amendment. Rudy Giuliani has demonstrated that he believes gun control policies in the U.S. should be controlled by a locality--New York City to be precise--and that he doesn't mind using non-legislative means to achieve that. Of the "top three", Mitt Romney's the only one I haven't yet found to be totally unacceptable though I don't like his remarks about the Schiavo case. Perhaps he hasn't followed it closely enough to really understand it, and it's not quite as big a fault as John McCain's and Rudy Giuliani's, so I haven't totally disqualified him for it.

53 posted on 03/12/2007 8:57:21 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: bluecollarman

But the GOP is meeting me halfway. They're giving me all of what I don't want and none of what I do want. LOL


54 posted on 03/12/2007 8:58:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: FairOpinion; Trueblackman
But please consider the consequences: UNCHECKED Marxist Dem power: Dem President, larger Dem Control of both Houses of Congress AND activist judges nominated and confirmed by Dems, handing ALL THREE BRANCHES of the US government over to the treasonous, socialist Dems.

Do you realize that is precisely the GOP's game? Just throw up the fear of the dems, and they can get away with whatever they want. More entitlements? But the Dems are worse! More earmarks? But the Dems are worse! More federal involvement in education? But the dems are worse!(Meanwhile, by they way, the DNC does the same thing to the leftist base). It is one big scam that the two parties play on us.

I refuse to play from now on. I am willing to take a chance that 4 years of the liberals running things, followed by a real Republican in power, is better than 20 years of the current game.

55 posted on 03/12/2007 8:59:06 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

BTTT


56 posted on 03/12/2007 8:59:54 PM PDT by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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To: devolve

Looks like Domania is being slow again tonight devolve!! Hope they get themselves fixed soon!!

OK, it's all open here in the reply box!

The 'gang's all here', lol.


57 posted on 03/12/2007 9:02:31 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Rodney King

Your right, were are just in the "Frog Boiling" state of things the way it's going now. Might as well bite the bullet.


58 posted on 03/12/2007 9:03:18 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Rudy in drag makes Edwards look like Charles Atlas.)
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To: Delphinium

>Even if only 1/10th of this base stayed home, we'd lose.<

I wouldn't stay home, but I wouldn't vote for anyone who promotes abortion, the homosexual agenda, gun control, and open borders. Let's see.... Why that leaves only Duncan Hunter, so I would write in HIS name, should it not appear on my ballot. If a conservative doesn't win the nomination, we ALL lose.


59 posted on 03/12/2007 9:03:30 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: OMalley; upsdriver; metalurgist; Hydroshock; dirtboy; MHGinTN; pissant; Fierce Allegiance; ...

ping


60 posted on 03/12/2007 9:04:52 PM PDT by Delphinium
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