Posted on 03/04/2007 1:04:27 PM PST by Al Simmons
One recent anti-Rudy poster stated the following:
"And if Rudy does get the nod, expect the MSM to open up the hype floodgates on the cross-dressing and the gay stuff -- oh, not condemning of course (wink) but how it's a big change, how will this play in the South, does this mean gay marriage is A-OK for the GOP."
MY REPLY: And if they do it will be countered with images of Rudy's heroism during and after 9/11 and most Americans will be DISGUSTED - at the MSM, NOT at RUDY.
The issue in 2008 will be the WOT - what with Iran's creeping closer to nukes and threatening the world. Not pull-out, but how to best change strategy and WIN.
Your statement does not mean to, but it nevertheless implies that Southerners and all Socons are stupid one-issue voters. Having lived in the Bible - Belt for 8 years I can tell you this is FAR from the truth. Its almost like you have been taken in by, and are repeating the MSM's Koolaid mantra about this group of Americans - of which I consider myself to be one, BTW.
Southerners are the most patriotic of Americans, they know we are at war, they absolutely DESPISE the treasonous opposition like Murtha, and they know that Rudy is the one who will take the fight to the terrorists - and without a velvet glove a la Dubya in Iraq, but with brass knuckles.
Rudy's principled stance on judges and the 'socon' issues (ie. he is a constructionist who will appoint constructionist judges like Scalia and Roberts - confirmed by no less a Federalist Society Conservative luminary than Ted Olsen - combined with his tacit promise that he is not a 'crusader' on social issues but believes that they should be decided by the people's elected representatives is right in line with what 90% of 'socons' (like myself, for example) believe).
So the fact that he is not flip-flopping a la Mitt and trying to brown-nose this "group" is also enhancing his image as a true leader - which he is - its funny how it was the Veterans here on FR who have been the first to catch on to that. Its a 'disturbance in the force' that we are highly attuned to, if you will. We can tell a real leader from a political poseur a mile away - and Rudy is a real leader.
Therefore Rudy will not meet significant opposition in the primary voters block except from a tiny minority of 'no compromise - any time any where' radicals who are squealing like stuck pigs around here the past few weeks because their own tactics have resulted in themselves becoming increasingly marginalized and out-of-the current conservative stream, which gathering itself up into a raging torrent that will sweep Rudy into office.
I was open-minded on Rudy when the bashing started a couple of weeks ago. Now, I am 100% behind him. The misguided attempts at character assassination, and 'can't see the forest for the trees blindness' of the anti-Rdy bots around here has had this effect on many, many Freepers - and is having this effect on conservative voters across the country.
Contrary to the idiotic "Rudy=Hitlary" statements which even the biggest rube knows are BS, the difference between Rudy and Hitlary (besides that one will cut-and-run while the other will get tougher in the WOT) is that Hitlary is a doctrinaire crusading Marxist who will use the FULL power of her office to sign laws and appoint judges who will seek to limit and take away our rights as religious Americans, home-schoolers and 2nd Amendment backers - this will be THE FOCUS of her administration, NOT the WOT. She's waited nearly 40 years to implement Saul ALinsky's tactics for turing America into a Marxist-liberal state. And she is cackling about the dissent she hopes will split the GOP and give her a cakewalk to the WH. Happily, she is DEAD WRONG about this.
Rudy's priorities are straight - WOT is #1, - AND IF YOU GET NOTHING MORE OUT OF THIS POST, PLEASE GET THIS:
Rudy is a PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVE who believes that the people should decide most of their social issues through their local elected representatives - and he will appoint conservative judges who have that philosophy - as opposed to Hitlary, who will appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburgs to every open Federal Judiciary Seat ACROSS THE NATION.
THAT is the real difference between Rudy and any national radical crusading left-wing Democrat who will run in 2008 (99% chance its Hitlary in my view).
So look at this issue beyond looking at out-of-context quotes made by Rudy when he was Mayor of a 5-1 LIBERAL city where he had to politically survive in order to save the City (which he did). He was THE most hated politician by the liberal limousine crowd that NY had ever seen. Does this sound like Rudy=Hitlary to you?
Look at his record of leadership and supporting pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment conservative candidates ALL OVER THE COUNTRY in the 2002, 2004 and 2006 elections.
That is called loyalty and patriotism. This is a man in whom I would have every confidence being back-to-back with in a political foxhole - and I cannot say that about any of the other candidates.
So please, those of you criticizing Rudy so viciously around here - get your 'gaze out of your navels' and see the 'Big Picture'.
Rudy is not a threat to conservatives, he will uphold local rights (especially through his judicial appointments), AND he will fight to protect this nation from a terrorist and a looming nuclear-terrorist peril. The alternative is to elect a Dem and concede defeat - HERE and ABROAD.
He is NO THREAT to the so-called 'socons'.
But he is a DEADLY THREAT to the terorrists and terrorist states (read:Iran) who would destroy us - and he a DEADLY THREAT to the liberal hegemony that Hitlary and her backers would LOVE to impose upon us.
It is the MSM that is playing up the 'Rudy is splitting the GOP base' FALSE stories. They are hoping to create such a split so that they have a chance to defeat him in 2008.
Well, their strategy is NOT WORKING, and he will defeat them - for all our sakes - in 2008.
Over and out!
The following is more than just a recommendation:
Understanding this should be a minimal job requirement.
Back to the argument that he's better than Hillary...hardly a compelling bumper sticker if you ask me.
Vote Rudy 2008 he's not as bad as Hillary!
16 posts so far, 15 "No Ways!"
I see a healthy pattern here. :)
Sorry. Haven't picked a candidate yet. Rudy's on my "watch with caution" list, but I'm still hoping Fred Thompson jumps into the ring.
Posted by stockpirate to tcostell
On News/Activism 03/04/2007 1:03:28 PM PST · 25 of 30
Now, what are Rudy's sterling qualifications to be the BEST man to be CIC?
1. His policies are not much different than Clintons.
2. The Socialist news media love him.
3. He is pro gay marriage.
4. The Log Cabin Repubs like him no doubt.
5.
Well actually all of these rule him out.
And a reply I recieved:
Posted by Jim Robinson to stockpirate
On News/Activism 02/25/2007 4:58:05 PM PST · 107 of 486
Yeah, but will he fight to make the military a safe place for homosexuals? Gay Rights y'know. Will he fight to get government paid abortions for military women and or their daughters? Abortion Rights y'know. Will he fight for cross dressers in the military? Cross dressers have rights too, y'know. These are the real questions. We want a fighter!!
I CAN NOT SUPPORT ANYONE WHO HAS THEIR PEOPLE POST IN ALL CAPS.
Bwahaahaa! *Snort* Hahaheeehaaaa!
Boy this is turning into the All Rudy all the time network.
Sorry, I am not enthused or amused. Put up a conservative and there will be a rebirth of enthusiasm.
BTW Al, that thread last week was great...
And this pro-gun, pro-life Baptist will cancel your vote out.
We are becoming ruthlessly quick on the draw. Did you notice who the first Nay was?
No more / No Less
Rudy is a PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVE!
You my friend are NOT a conservative if you in fact believe that statement.
VOTE for HiLLery first I will!
Another vanity? I will not support Giuliani under any circumstances.
He likes the Sullivan Law, the 'Assault Weapons ban', need I say more?
Somehow he forgot or denies that the Second Amendment of the Constitution, that 'inconvenient' law of the land guarantees my right to keep and bear arms, and I aim to continue to do just that.
I don't need a(nother) president who picks and chooses what laws they will enforce/ignore. No Rudy, no way.
And don't throw the Hildabeast at me. Just get a conservative candidate, already.
Yeah, but you gotta give Rudy credit ,at least he's in our face about his disdain for the Second Amendment ... that alone warrants our unconditional support for him ! /sarc
The last time there was such blind loyalty to a left winger was during and after BJ Clinton until Rudy.
WHY?
Not a snowball's chance.
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