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WHY ALL CONSERVATIVES SHOULD SUPPORT RUDY WITH ENTHUSIASM IN 2008
A CONSERVATIVE BUT RATIONAL MIND | 3/4/2007 | AL SIMMONS

Posted on 03/04/2007 1:04:27 PM PST by Al Simmons

One recent anti-Rudy poster stated the following:

"And if Rudy does get the nod, expect the MSM to open up the hype floodgates on the cross-dressing and the gay stuff -- oh, not condemning of course (wink) but how it's a big change, how will this play in the South, does this mean gay marriage is A-OK for the GOP."

MY REPLY: And if they do it will be countered with images of Rudy's heroism during and after 9/11 and most Americans will be DISGUSTED - at the MSM, NOT at RUDY.

The issue in 2008 will be the WOT - what with Iran's creeping closer to nukes and threatening the world. Not pull-out, but how to best change strategy and WIN.

Your statement does not mean to, but it nevertheless implies that Southerners and all Socons are stupid one-issue voters. Having lived in the Bible - Belt for 8 years I can tell you this is FAR from the truth. Its almost like you have been taken in by, and are repeating the MSM's Koolaid mantra about this group of Americans - of which I consider myself to be one, BTW.

Southerners are the most patriotic of Americans, they know we are at war, they absolutely DESPISE the treasonous opposition like Murtha, and they know that Rudy is the one who will take the fight to the terrorists - and without a velvet glove a la Dubya in Iraq, but with brass knuckles.

Rudy's principled stance on judges and the 'socon' issues (ie. he is a constructionist who will appoint constructionist judges like Scalia and Roberts - confirmed by no less a Federalist Society Conservative luminary than Ted Olsen - combined with his tacit promise that he is not a 'crusader' on social issues but believes that they should be decided by the people's elected representatives is right in line with what 90% of 'socons' (like myself, for example) believe).

So the fact that he is not flip-flopping a la Mitt and trying to brown-nose this "group" is also enhancing his image as a true leader - which he is - its funny how it was the Veterans here on FR who have been the first to catch on to that. Its a 'disturbance in the force' that we are highly attuned to, if you will. We can tell a real leader from a political poseur a mile away - and Rudy is a real leader.

Therefore Rudy will not meet significant opposition in the primary voters block except from a tiny minority of 'no compromise - any time any where' radicals who are squealing like stuck pigs around here the past few weeks because their own tactics have resulted in themselves becoming increasingly marginalized and out-of-the current conservative stream, which gathering itself up into a raging torrent that will sweep Rudy into office.

I was open-minded on Rudy when the bashing started a couple of weeks ago. Now, I am 100% behind him. The misguided attempts at character assassination, and 'can't see the forest for the trees blindness' of the anti-Rdy bots around here has had this effect on many, many Freepers - and is having this effect on conservative voters across the country.

Contrary to the idiotic "Rudy=Hitlary" statements which even the biggest rube knows are BS, the difference between Rudy and Hitlary (besides that one will cut-and-run while the other will get tougher in the WOT) is that Hitlary is a doctrinaire crusading Marxist who will use the FULL power of her office to sign laws and appoint judges who will seek to limit and take away our rights as religious Americans, home-schoolers and 2nd Amendment backers - this will be THE FOCUS of her administration, NOT the WOT. She's waited nearly 40 years to implement Saul ALinsky's tactics for turing America into a Marxist-liberal state. And she is cackling about the dissent she hopes will split the GOP and give her a cakewalk to the WH. Happily, she is DEAD WRONG about this.

Rudy's priorities are straight - WOT is #1, - AND IF YOU GET NOTHING MORE OUT OF THIS POST, PLEASE GET THIS:

Rudy is a PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVE who believes that the people should decide most of their social issues through their local elected representatives - and he will appoint conservative judges who have that philosophy - as opposed to Hitlary, who will appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburgs to every open Federal Judiciary Seat ACROSS THE NATION.

THAT is the real difference between Rudy and any national radical crusading left-wing Democrat who will run in 2008 (99% chance its Hitlary in my view).

So look at this issue beyond looking at out-of-context quotes made by Rudy when he was Mayor of a 5-1 LIBERAL city where he had to politically survive in order to save the City (which he did). He was THE most hated politician by the liberal limousine crowd that NY had ever seen. Does this sound like Rudy=Hitlary to you?

Look at his record of leadership and supporting pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment conservative candidates ALL OVER THE COUNTRY in the 2002, 2004 and 2006 elections.

That is called loyalty and patriotism. This is a man in whom I would have every confidence being back-to-back with in a political foxhole - and I cannot say that about any of the other candidates.

So please, those of you criticizing Rudy so viciously around here - get your 'gaze out of your navels' and see the 'Big Picture'.

Rudy is not a threat to conservatives, he will uphold local rights (especially through his judicial appointments), AND he will fight to protect this nation from a terrorist and a looming nuclear-terrorist peril. The alternative is to elect a Dem and concede defeat - HERE and ABROAD.

He is NO THREAT to the so-called 'socons'.

But he is a DEADLY THREAT to the terorrists and terrorist states (read:Iran) who would destroy us - and he a DEADLY THREAT to the liberal hegemony that Hitlary and her backers would LOVE to impose upon us.

It is the MSM that is playing up the 'Rudy is splitting the GOP base' FALSE stories. They are hoping to create such a split so that they have a chance to defeat him in 2008.

Well, their strategy is NOT WORKING, and he will defeat them - for all our sakes - in 2008.

Over and out!


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Well, I thought about the quoted statement above from a misguided 'socon' poster that I thought I should compose a reply that is was worthy of its own thread. I hope that I have succeeded.

Please read it, 'get the message', and then 'get on board'.

There is a Dragon out there waiting to try to devour everything near and dear to us, and the only real strong champion we have happens to be from NYC.

So, please, please, see beyond your regional prejudices, stop unwittingly swallowing the MSM hype about how Rudy will split the GOP (he is not and he won't - the exact opposite is happening right now - ranks are closing behind him), and let him take up his lance and slay that Dragon in 2008.

1 posted on 03/04/2007 1:04:32 PM PST by Al Simmons
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To: Al Simmons

Not this conservative. Count me out!


2 posted on 03/04/2007 1:05:53 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Al Simmons
So, please, please, see beyond your regional prejudices

My 'regional' prejudice is the US Constitution.

Rudy has shown his disdain for it and for my inalienable rights guaranteed therein.

I will not vote for Rudy in the Primaries nor would I ever consider voting for any pro-abortion, anti-2nd Amendment politician no matter what party he claims to belong to.

Rudy is a fraud.

L

3 posted on 03/04/2007 1:06:44 PM PST by Lurker (Calling islam a religion is like calling a car a submarine.)
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To: Al Simmons

No way in hell.


4 posted on 03/04/2007 1:07:05 PM PST by TomServo ("Jim Henson’s Flying Leatherneck Babies!")
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To: Al Simmons

Not happening in my household. Sorry. I'm holding out for a Conservative, not just someone with an "R" behind their name. :)


5 posted on 03/04/2007 1:07:09 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Jim Robinson

me to Jim!


6 posted on 03/04/2007 1:08:28 PM PST by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!)
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To: Al Simmons

Newt in 08. No thanks gun grabber rudy is a lib


7 posted on 03/04/2007 1:08:36 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini (What do you call 2 toddlers and some duct tape??........muslim body armor!!!!!!!)
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To: Lurker

Ain't gonna happen.


8 posted on 03/04/2007 1:08:41 PM PST by migraines
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To: Al Simmons

"The issue in 2008 will be the WOT."

That was the issue for the Republicans last time. Was sure great wasn't it? Got us a Democrat Congress. Use it again and we've got a Democrat WH to match.


9 posted on 03/04/2007 1:09:13 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Al Simmons

Pro Second Amendment??????
Gag! Cough!! Hurl! Choke!!


10 posted on 03/04/2007 1:09:36 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Al Simmons

I'm conservative, but Rudy ain't the guy.


12 posted on 03/04/2007 1:09:58 PM PST by devane617 (Let's take back our country -- get a job in the MSM, or education system. We need you.)
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To: Lurker

Don't forget his "sanctuary city" policies on illegal aliens - he won't protect or defend the border.


13 posted on 03/04/2007 1:09:58 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Al Simmons
I'm a Southerner (thank you, Lord). I'm pro-gun. Pro-life. I'm a Southern Baptist.

And I'm voting for Rudy Giuliani in '08.

14 posted on 03/04/2007 1:10:17 PM PST by Gurn (Islam is a cancer.)
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To: Al Simmons

Here's the exact quote from the man himself that makes it so I will not vote for him, in 1996, in an interview by the New York Post's Jack Newfield:

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."



15 posted on 03/04/2007 1:10:33 PM PST by stockpirate (Democratic approach to Iraq would "validate the al-Qaeda strategy,")
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To: Al Simmons

Yeah, and us Suthruners is big on Gun Control and we will back whoever wants all those mean guns off the street. (/sarcasm)


16 posted on 03/04/2007 1:10:36 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Al Simmons

Rudy blew off his sons high school graduation. He learned of his daughters acceptance to harvard from a newpaper. What a piece of crap.


17 posted on 03/04/2007 1:10:49 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours! Keep scrubbing, Rudy supporters, the blood won't come off.)
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To: Al Simmons

Is this a joke ?


18 posted on 03/04/2007 1:11:08 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist
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To: Lurker

"nor would I ever consider voting for any pro-abortion, anti-2nd Amendment politician no matter what party he claims to belong to."


I can't look past either of those two issues in a candidate. No way I could just ignore them both to vote for him in any election.


19 posted on 03/04/2007 1:11:15 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Al Simmons

Rudy is a scumbag SOCIALIST plain and simple.

I would vote for Hillery before I would cast ONE vote for him!


20 posted on 03/04/2007 1:11:25 PM PST by stockpirate (Democratic approach to Iraq would "validate the al-Qaeda strategy,")
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