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When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:
2/7/7 | unknown

Posted on 02/07/2007 5:41:35 PM PST by do the dhue

Things that make you think a little:

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.

In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.

When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:

a. FDR led us into World War II.

b. Germany never attacked us ; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year.

c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea North Korea never attacked us .. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.

d John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.

e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost .. an average of 5,800 per year.

f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us . He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

But Wait

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation..

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB ! The Military morale is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts

(I checked this out on Snopes, and it's true)

But Wait, There's more!

WHAT JOHN GLENN SAID

JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR) Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13

Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a l iving. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.

This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.

Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn): "How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"

Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): "I served 23 years in the United StatesMarine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank."

"I ask you to go with me .. . as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men ... with their mangled bodies . in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!

You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Or phans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee.. and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.

You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

What about you?"

For those who don't remember During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA.

Now he's a Senator!


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; johnglenn
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Can I get a heck yeah?
1 posted on 02/07/2007 5:41:38 PM PST by do the dhue
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To: SandRat

Ping


2 posted on 02/07/2007 5:42:25 PM PST by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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To: do the dhue

What was the total US killed and wounded in WW2?


3 posted on 02/07/2007 5:46:35 PM PST by uscabjd ( a)
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To: do the dhue
Hmmmm. The way I remember it is Al Queda declared war on us. They also have attacked us numerous times since 1993 that I know of. It took GWB do something about it.
4 posted on 02/07/2007 5:50:38 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: do the dhue

Good post!!!


5 posted on 02/07/2007 5:50:55 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: do the dhue

Is Metzenbomb dead yet?

I'm tired of being polite with commies.


6 posted on 02/07/2007 5:52:05 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: do the dhue
Germany never attacked us ;...

Strictly speaking, they did declare war on us after we declared that "...a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire."

I'd say a Declaration of War is comparable to an attack.

7 posted on 02/07/2007 5:55:12 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: do the dhue
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.

True, if there had been 35 cops killed in Detroit during the month. The relevant number for comparison is the total number of people killed in Iraq during January, not the number of Americans.

I don't know what this number is, but it is certainly in the hundreds, if not thousands.

8 posted on 02/07/2007 5:56:50 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Just A Nobody

Might be a nice pin up on the bulletin board at Walter Reed.


9 posted on 02/07/2007 5:56:51 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: do the dhue
A lot of people are traitors. That is what I tell myself. I also know that traitors always eventually end up on the serving end. I plan one day to collect my riches.
10 posted on 02/07/2007 5:56:58 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: do the dhue

bttt


11 posted on 02/07/2007 6:01:26 PM PST by tje
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To: do the dhue

I would also note that we had 821 deaths in Iraq last year. In Philadelphia, there were 406 homicides. If only 9 of those deaths in Iraq were non-combat, that would mean that twice as many Americans are dying of violence in an American city of 1.5 million than are dying in a war zone inhabited by 25 million people.


12 posted on 02/07/2007 6:03:24 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: do the dhue

HELL YEAH!!!


13 posted on 02/07/2007 6:03:45 PM PST by HKMk23 (No view is admirable or infernal but that the root principle makes it so.)
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To: do the dhue

btt!


14 posted on 02/07/2007 6:04:08 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: do the dhue

Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): "I served 23 years in the United StatesMarine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions.

Heck Yeah!


First time Saddam shot at a pilot in the 'no fly zone'
is the only reason I need,

it was dreadful to watch Clinton do nothing
as we were being attacked on numberous occations.


15 posted on 02/07/2007 6:05:11 PM PST by Son House ( The Presidents enemies, are my enemies.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Not really. The talking point against our being there is "3,000 dead troops," not "X number of dead Iraqis." Even if one claims they are concerned with Iraqi dead, their point is hollow because our exit from Iraq would ensure a greater number of Iraqi deaths.

Plus, there's the hypocrisy factor. As Limbaugh asked when he compared our 821 servicemember deaths to Philadelphia's 406 murders, will Arlen Specter hold hearings on why over 400 Americans lost their lives in a city of 1.5 million?

16 posted on 02/07/2007 6:11:47 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I just think this is a false analogy. There are, what, 125,000 Americans in Iraq? And 25 of them were killed last month, as compared to the same number in a city of almost a million?

Compare things that have some relationship to each other, please. What do Iraq and Detroit have in common except the rough number of Americans killed? At least a good number of those killed in Detroit were themselves criminals killed in criminal disputes. How does this compare to troops killed in combat?


17 posted on 02/07/2007 6:16:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: do the dhue

bump


18 posted on 02/07/2007 6:17:52 PM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: do the dhue
The Press loves to mention that 3,000 Americans have died in Iraq in the past 3 + years.

They don't mention that 30,000 Americans died in Korea in 30 months (2 1/2 years).

10 times as many Americans died under Truman in Korea, as died under Bush in Iraq.

The Dems want to cut and run, because 3,000 Americans died in Iraq in 3 1/2 years.

Truman did not cut and run after 3,000 Americans died in Korea (which was 5 weeks into the Korean conflict)

Someone please ask the Dems if they are embarassed that full wartime censorship was placed on reporters while Truman was president, on January 9, 1951. Reporters were placed under the jurisdiction of the military and were threatened with courtmartial if they broke rules; they had their dispatches screened for demoralizing content; they could not reveal casualties before official publication; they could not criticize the allies' conduct of the Korean war.

19 posted on 02/07/2007 6:21:24 PM PST by syriacus (30,000 Americans died, in 30 months, to release South Korea from Kim Il-sung's tyranny)
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To: do the dhue

It was great of Bush to start it. He just doesn't have a clue as to how to win it and has seemingly morphed into a republican Jimmy Carter.

Peace through superior firepower!


20 posted on 02/07/2007 6:24:14 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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