When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:

2/7/7 | unknown

[Christian4Bush]

Can I get a heck yeah?

I'll give you a "Team America" Yeah!

[dancusa]

The Press loves to mention that 3,000 Americans have died in Iraq in the past 3 + years.

Someone please correct me if i'm wrong. Aren't 3000 babies aborted daily in this country. Does the press ever report this silent genocide?

[Vigilanteman]

JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR) Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13

Umm, Glenn retired from the Senate in 1999, Metzenbaum in 1995.

[do the dhue]

LOL

I do get it too

[do the dhue]

NP, sorry if I came across cross ...

[do the dhue]

Niiiiiice post

[do the dhue]

Summary of the eRumor
Said to be debate between Senators John Glenn and Howard Meztenbaum on the floor of the Senate.
Metzenbaum accused Glenn of never having held a real job. Glenn responded by saying he had served 23 years as a Marine including 2 wars, flying 149 missions, having his plane hit 12 times by anti-aircraft fire plus his years in NASA and as an astronaut.

He asks Metzenbaum to go with him to visit wounded soldiers or the families of the Apollo astronauts who were killed and tell them those veterans didn't have a real job.

Glenn then says he did indeed have a real job and asks Metzenbaum, "How about you."
The eRumor closes with the comment that during World War II Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist party.



The Truth
This exchange did take place but not on the floor of the Senate, but the wording of Glenn's words if fairly accurate.

It was during the campaign debate in 1974 when Metzenbaum was running for reelection and Glenn was challenging him.

Glenn and Metzenbaum had also run against each other for the same seat four years earlier, a race that Metzenbaum had won.

A few days prior to the debate, Metzenbaum made a widely publicized statement that said that Glenn had never met a payroll (he didn't actually say that he'd never held a real job).

In other words, Glenn had been a military man not a businessman, like Metzenbaum, who had created a major newspaper and a nation-wide parking company.

Metzenbaum did not repeat that charge during the debate, but Glenn came prepared to respond to it and did it so powerfully that he also went on to win the election.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/glenn-metzenbaum.htm

[syriacus]

Does the press ever report this silent genocide?

Very good question.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

But the soldiers themselves say that much of their work is going door to door, getting to know the communities, earning the trust of the people.

Then later, the people of the village become informants and warn our soldiers of danger, and of attacks that are being planned against US forces. Then the insurgents are pushed out into the open to defend themselves.

These actions lead to even greater support of our troops.

There are also the stories of children, women and the elderly being terribly injured and then healed by our wonderful military doctors. The families and the village's hierarchy then return to the hospitals, showing their gratitude. And from then on, they support the US completely. More good will is fostered and lives are saved.

You can't just bomb a city and hope to avoid killing civilians. The bombing raids have their purpose. But it is still the soldiers on the ground, going door to door, that are turning entire communities around.

[Vigilanteman]

Thanks for the clarification.

I remember Metzenbaum was so far left, he made Glenn look conservative and Glenn himself was pretty liberal-- so bad in fact that the RINO who replaced him (was it DeWine?) looked like a vast improvement.

[do the dhue]

Metzenbaum was so far left he made Stalin look Conservative. Yes, Glenn is pretty liberal socially and I think economically.

This is what I found on Glenn's successor:

Voters in Ohio elected Republican Gov. George Voinovich to fill the Senate seat that Democrat Glenn held for 24 years before announcing that, at the age of 77, he would not seek reelection.

http://www.chron.com/content/interactive/space/missions/sts-095/stories/mission/981104b.html