Posted on 08/01/2006 4:15:27 AM PDT by SheLion
WASHINGTON -- Quietly leaving his post as surgeon general, Dr. Richard Carmona said he would judge himself successful if he had persuaded one student to make good health choices or one mother to stop smoking.
Carmona's report condemning secondhand smoke was a hallmark of his tenure as the nation's 17th surgeon general.
If you own the business, then you should fire to offending individuals. If not, you should discuss it with the owner and if he is not willing to enforce the rule you could find other employment with more enjoyable working conditions.
Who is "they"?
"Banned" from what or where?
We have a guy from Bosnia who smells "bad" at work. From cigarettes and BO. Most people won't be around him. So, in effect he has been banned. What's the problem
LOL! In what way?
You see. The non-smoker has to make all the sacrifices. This is the attitude that incites rancor.
I said it can harm children. I never claimed it always does.
But it harmed me.
All around what? The outside of the building? The hallways? Your cubicle? All around inside the building?
If it's a nonsmoking workplace then there are normally laws. If there are no laws and the owner made it nonsmoking I would think that he would want to know that employees are flouting his rules.
If it's a workplace that allows smoking, like many bars and restaurants, stop whining. You would have known when you took the job.
That is point blank rudeness, something I do not condone. However, I must ask are you making your request in an area where smoking is permitted?
Why is it that smokers are allowed to do things like this and non-smokers are vilified by a simple request.
My experience has been very different than yours. Polite non-smokers get no problems from smokers. Nasty anti-smokers are an entirely different story. And telling the difference between the 2 are very easy to discern, and very quickly.
My husband and I used to spend a couple of hours on Friday afternoons playing NTN trivia with a group of friends at a local bar/restaurant. Then Delaware banned smoking in private businesses. We went a few times after that and during the break between games we all would go out to have a cigarette. We would go out the side door, not the main entrance, and what used to be a group of 17 playing had dwindled to less than 10.
There was this one person who had never been in the place, but started showing up every Friday afternoon and would only use the side door........and immediately complain to the bartender about the smokers blocking the entrance with their noxious odors. The establishment sits on a major highway, next to a gas station. Please tell me who had the problem here?
If you have to ask you have more serious issues than I am willing to deal with.
I'm not sure I understand your point. I'm not trying to compare my military career with your husband's which seems somewhat besides the point, I'm saying that I've seen some people die in unpleasant ways, but I've never seen suffering like I have with some of the nastier forms of lung cancer.
So in other words, US taxpayers will be forced to pay for years of expensive medical treatment for you, so this sentence: "If I get sick, NO one will have to pay for ME, and that's a fact!" was in fact a lie. There's really no reason to lie on an anonymous online forum.
Therefore your entire contribution to this discussion is pointless.
Your anecdotal evidence supports nothing. It is a personal health issue for you which you admit could just as easily be triggered by any other particulate matter that you were exposed to.
I'm only amazed that you bothered to offer it. Are you honestly of the opinion that it proves some kind of point?
Sorry, I disagree with you. Someone who is the widow of a career military man is completely entitled to the benefits. During his career both he and his family contributed plenty to the taxpayers.
Take it up with the government if you've got a problem, she's paid her dues.
How can you say this? Are you The Great and Powerful Karnak? Can you see the future with amazing clarity and tell us all how we are going to die?
If I, or anyone else for that matter, pay for my health insurance how is anyone else paying for our health costs?
So if I say that you'll be hit by a bus tomorrow and linger for decades in a zombie like state between life and death, that makes it true. Right?
Or a certificate that first hand smoking was the cause of death.
yitbos
Thank you.
The idea is that poisons such as arsenic are, of course, poisonous - that is, if one ingests too much, they will produce sickness or death. But arsenic and other toxins in very low doses, below an amount deemed harmful, repeatedly have been shown to benefit the functions of organs, the optimal growth of the organism, or longevity. According to scientists who favor this theory, when the human body, or cell, becomes stressed or damaged by a small amount of poison, it not only repairs the damage but overcompensates and becomes stronger than it was. The phenomenon is similar to exercise; by jogging or lifting weights, one may stretch and exhaust the muscle tissue, which causes soreness. But later the muscle not only repairs itself but overcompensates and improves to the point where one can lift more weight or run longer and faster.
Chon Shoaf, a scientist with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) at Research Triangle Park, N.C., says recent work on hormesis "is revolutionary and we want people to be aware of it. It has the potential to generate substantial savings."
The persons most responsible for conceptualizing and exalting this pioneering research since the 1990s, and who may flip EPA policy upside down to the benefit of taxpayers and every organism down to the last menacing insect, is Edward Calabrese, 56, a toxicology professor at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, and his longtime assistant Linda Baldwin. He has been described as "one of the leading toxicologists in the country." Speaking to Insight in his messy office, whose floor for the last three years has featured what appears to be the largest malfunctioning air conditioner ever seen on planet Earth, Calabrese explains his breakthrough research. These are ideas, ironically, which were generated not by an elite Massachusetts university with posh paraphernalia on the banks of the Charles River, but rather from the "70 to 80 hours weekly" this scientist toils at his lunch-pail university that the elitists sometimes refer to as "Zoo Mass."
"I believe there is not a single chemical that does not" exhibit patterns of hormesis, Calabrese says. It is a general response that is shown with mercury, lead, components of cigarette smoke, cadmium, marijuana, cocaine, alcohol and "everything that is regulated by the EPA."
"Who is "they"?"
Pollutants from welding.
"Banned" from what or where?"
Any place that humans are exposed to that bad smell, after all they smell bad so they must be bad and worth banning.
"We have a guy from Bosnia who smells "bad" at work. From cigarettes and BO. Most people won't be around him. So, in effect he has been banned. What's the problem"
Sounds like his supervisor/manager is not doing a very good job.
"The non-smoker has to make all the sacrifices."
Unless the non-smoker takes the risk of owning the property. All non-owners of the property make the sacrifices and must abide by the whims of the property owner.
Wrong. A smoker smokes and pollutes the air around him regardless of how much care he takes. It only takes one smoker to pollute many cubic feet of air. Smokers live in denial about that fact. Smoke permeates the air all around them. Non-smokers are always forced to sacrifice to the smoker. Never the other way around. People not smoking around a smoker causes him no discomfort in any way. Smokers cause discomfort all around.
Any place that humans are exposed to that bad smell, after all they smell bad so they must be bad and worth banning.
Since I have never brought up the issue of banning that's a pointless statement. In any case welding is done in specific areas. And, there are regulations for welders insuring that innocent bystanders aren't exposed to the toxic smoke and the damaging light.
"In any case welding is done in specific areas. And, there are regulations for welders insuring that innocent bystanders aren't exposed to the toxic smoke..."
You are correct Ray "there are regulations for welders insuring that innocent bystanders aren't exposed to the toxic smoke..." those regulations are OSHA regulations and OSHA also has regulations for tobacco smoke components.....and AGAIN I point out the American Cancer Society PROVES secondhand smoke levels ARE 25,000 times SAFER than those OSHA regulations.
http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2004/04/american-cancer-society-test-results.html
With every argument you make Ray you only serve to prove my point and the fact....that secondhand smoke IS NOT a health hazard.
Welding smoke post:
http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2006/07/smoking-bansthe-right-thing-to-door.html
Thank you.....care to try again.
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