Just a reminder: Free Republic is a conservative site

[Jim Robinson]

Just a reminder: Free Republic is a conservative site. We fight for conservative principles, values and causes. We defend the Constitution. We defend our borders. We defend our God-given rights. We are opposed to the liberal/socialist/Marxist agenda for America. We do not willingly give up ground to the Marxists.

It's true that the illegal immigration issue is very discouraging, and I don't know if anyone has a solution that will appeal to conservatives and yet manage to get by Democrat obstructionism, ie, a filibuster, but I don't see that as any reason to give up everything. We should not allow it to rip us apart and destroy the movement. We fight on.

We hold the majority. We continue working as hard as we possibly can to elect as many conservatives as we possibly can. We build a conservative majority that can overcome the Democrats and the RINOs. We do not willingly give up any seats to Democrats. We add seats. Preferably, conservative seats.

I would also like to remind everyone, that Free Republic does not condone racism and does not advocate violence. We exercise our first amendment rights to free speech and peaceable assembly. We do not condemn people because of their race, religion, ethnicity, skin color, etc. We do not advocate civil war, anarchy, or an overthrow of the government. We do not advocate shooting illegals or mining the borders. We do not appreciate people coming across our borders illegally, but as conservatives, we do not issue racial epithets or threaten them with violence or bodily harm.

And, yes, we are at war. And we do support our troops and their mission. We also respect our commander-in-chief and are mindful that when people disrespect him, it hurts troop morale. We do not appreciate the mainstream media's attempts to destroy America's will to fight and we do not do anything to assist the Democrats and their accomplices in the media in their treasonous mission of undermining the war effort by providing aid and comfort to the enemy.

And despite our dissatisfaction and disappointments in regards to the illegal immigration issue, we recognize that it is not the last issue on earth and there are plenty of other reasons not to allow the Marxist Democrats to retake power.

I'll list a few issues (by no means and exhaustive list) that will be adversely affected by Marxist/Democrats in power:

Islamofascism/terrorism
National Security/Defense
The United Nations (as in their control over us)
The Supreme Court
The federal judiciary
The legislative agenda
The right to life
Marriage between one man, one woman
The family
Education
Health care
Private property
Taxation
Oil/energy
The right to keep and bear arms
The right to freedom of religion
The right to self-governance
All of our God-given rights
The Constitution
The Republic
Liberty itself

Do not get so discouraged that we give it all up. It could take generations to get it back. If ever.

"Securing the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity" is our duty.

[RunningWolf]

Look I am not even going to read those pings because its probably just more taunting and baiting going on.

I don't like the nasty nature of those threads that can draw the worst out of people.

I know all you will ever put up here is something you can take me down with. But look at this way. It could be I was just trying to talk their language something they seemed to understand, he** they certainly talk it enough.

But people (like the three here I pinged) could do a lot better IMO by cutting some of those other characters out of your formation. You know who they are, they are your /one-line hit job wonders/

Actually I do not like it that I feel in their trap, and engaged those characters and taken down to their level of intellectual maturity. They seem to get energized by it. I think what many people (other than myself) notice right away is you see them repeating these patterns for threads and threads months and months, whereas you respond in kind the mod will spring relatively quickly.

But as I predicted, I will probably not hear a direct answer on on my first post to this thread, instead all of you will become the voice, the answer as it were by default.

Wolf

[donh]

Look I am not even going to read those pings because its probably just more taunting and baiting going on.

Well, of course you aren't going to defend yourself on the subject of deceitful behavior, which, incidently, you brought up, mordo.

I don't like the nasty nature of those threads

Right. You obviously hate it ever so much, that's why you are so reticent to start it, or talk it into existence from a fairly mundane exchange, and then try to make it the inflamed subject of the rest of the discussion.

[donh]

I know all you will ever put up here is something you can take me down with.

You're not the center of my universe, you're just the currently most annoying of several disengenuous trolls who came here to fight, and not by the Queen of Queensbury rules, rather than argue in the court of reason, mordo.

/one-line hit job wonders/

Is this another example of your restraint and courtesy?

Actually I do not like it that I feel in their trap, and engaged those characters and taken down to their level of intellectual maturity. They seem to get energized by it.

Well, of course you feel trapped. Probably your illogical seques and perennial whining are a big hit at the the local bowling alley, but this is a public forum established for the purpose of arguing about political issues, where some sort of critical continuity in thought divorced from personal animus is valued. Naturally many of us will get exercised when that requirement is flouted. If you don't like having your face rubbed in your previous behavior, I recommend you clean up your confrontive tone.

I think what many people (other than myself) notice right away is you see them repeating these patterns for threads and threads months and months, whereas you respond in kind the mod will spring relatively quickly.

And what is with this constant whining about the mods? They knew you officiously dropped being mordo on request and then came back as Running Wolf as an argumentative ploy, but they let that preposterous behavior slide. If there's anyone here that's been coddled by the mods, it's you.

But as I predicted, I will probably not hear a direct answer on on my first post to this thread, instead all of you will become the voice, the answer as it were by default.

Nobody appointed you the keeper of the thread. I'll respond to what I please and ignore what I please, just like everyone else.

[donh]

Look I am not even going to read those pings because its probably just more taunting and baiting going on.

Yea, right. You didn't read those posts before replying to them. Of course you didn't. I frequently do that too--reply to posts I haven't read--it just prejudices your response.

[donh]

Here are two sentences from your last post:

Look I am not even going to read those pings because its probably just more taunting and baiting going on.

...

I will probably not hear a direct answer on on my first post to this thread,

Sauce...goose...gander?

instead all of you will become the voice, the answer as it were by default.

Ah yes, the mighty darwinian conspiracy claims another ever so innocent victim.

[Centurion2000]

bump for later.

[Ichneumon]

I don't like the nasty nature of those threads that can draw the worst out of people.

Yeah, like this guy for instance:

And if two trains leave Chicago traveling in opposite directions at 60 mph, one contains a carload of monkeys, and one contains a carload of evolutionists, how long before both trains have occupants with the same IQ?

Well, calculating in for the variable=(highly educated evo cultist professor poorly to be right wing).., about a mile?

train sounds CHOO choo choo, CHOO choo choo, CHOO choo choo, WooWoohh WooWoohh

Wolf

185 posted on 10/23/2005 12:56:11 AM CDT by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)

Oh, wait, that was you, wasn't it?

But people (like the three here I pinged) could do a lot better IMO by cutting some of those other characters out of your formation. You know who they are, they are your /one-line hit job wonders/

I know you think we're all in the same "cult" or something -- you keep telling us that at every opportunity -- but I regret to inform you that I'm not responsible for what anyone else posts.

Actually I do not like it that I feel in their trap, and engaged those characters and taken down to their level of intellectual maturity.

Yeah, right, sure, because we always go around saying "train sounds CHOO choo choo, CHOO choo choo, CHOO choo choo, WooWoohh WooWoohh" all the time, and you just got around to joining us... Pull the other leg now. You were mouthing off and insulting people a few short days after your sign-up date, and since then you've been fond of posting stuff like the following, which is more personally insulting and exhibits less "intellectual maturity" than anything I can recall seeing from the "evo" side:

A photo taken at a recent high council meeting for the cosmo-evo evo-cosmo cult of the flying spaghetti monster seminar.

NOTE HEAVY RAIN; TURKEYS IN IT

In the pic, that's 'the right Prof' he's the biggest one on the right in the foreground, Ichys right behind him in the left center, and little 'wild turkey' is there in the left foreground.

Wolf

207 posted on 10/23/2005 1:48:13 AM CDT by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)

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Now get out of the rain before you guys all drown.

We don't want all the great minds of cosmo-evo to all go out in one rain storm.

Wolf

212 posted on 10/23/2005 2:09:02 AM CDT by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)

How many *more* would you like?

Hey, you know what would increase the average "intellectual maturity" and civility level of the "crevo" threads? If you took a break from them.

I think what many people (other than myself) notice right away is you see them repeating these patterns for threads and threads months and months, whereas you respond in kind the mod will spring relatively quickly.

In my experience, the reason is that when you folks "respond in kind", you do it four times more viciously, with a quarter of the justification (and half the wit). Or sometimes with no justification at all -- it often comes out of the blue on an otherwise civil science thread which had up until that point not even mentioned origins or anything controversial, and was just presenting some new finding in cosmology or biology.

[RunningWolf]

And if two trains leave Chicago traveling in opposite directions at 60 mph, one contains a carload of monkeys, and one contains a carload of evolutionists, how long before both trains have occupants with the same IQ?

Well, calculating in for the variable=(highly educated evo cultist professor poorly to be right wing).., about a mile?

train sounds CHOO choo choo, CHOO choo choo, CHOO choo choo, WooWoohh WooWoohh

Wolf

[RunningWolf]

A photo taken at a recent high council meeting for the cosmo-evo evo-cosmo cult of the flying spaghetti monster seminar.

NOTE HEAVY RAIN; TURKEYS IN IT

In the pic, that's 'the right Prof' he's the biggest one on the right in the foreground, Ichys right behind him in the left center, and little 'wild turkey' is there in the left foreground.

Wolf

[RunningWolf]

Now get out of the rain before you guys all drown.

We don't want all the great minds of cosmo-evo to all go out in one rain storm.

Wolf

[VadeRetro]

You guys had a meeting and I wasn't invited? I'm hurt.

[Admin Moderator]

Take it to a topical thread.

[Dog Gone]

[NZerFromHK]

To further back up what I wrote in post 906 this is what I read this morning:

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http://www.claremont.org/weblog/004835.html

American Conservatism

As we contemplate the character of American conservatism, it’s worth considering a couple of comments by America’s premiere Anti-Jacobin and, at least according to Russell Kirk, America’s first conservative.

“Locke taught them [the Philosophes] principles of liberty. But I doubt whether they have not yet to learn the principles of government.”

And he wrote his grandson, George Washington Adams (how’s that for a name?): “there is, George, a cause of mankind and there are Rights of Men. Study them without enthusiasm, and be cautious how you act.”

In other words, Adams did not think that the French Revolutionaries were wrong to think that there are rights of men. He suspected that their understanding of those rights was imperfect, and he knew that their understanding of government was poor. Hence he predicted that oceans of blood would flow once the revolution started.

I have long suspected that the creeping historicism to be found in Burke’s conservatism is somehow connected to the reality that he was living in a land that had a sovereign legislature. Parliament’s will was law. That being the case, law and justice were distinct. Hence, Burke could only counsel prudence, and caution when dealing with change.

America’s constitutional tradition, by contrast, retains the connection between law and justice. (In that sense, as John Phillip Reid points out, American law has much more the character of common law than does modern English law). Our constitutional tradition is oriented toward the rights of men.

The upshot of all that is there is a reason why America’s first conservative was also the premiere defender of the Declaration of Independence in Congress. If conservatism acknowledges the importance of particularity, it should accept the Declaration as the foundation of America's constitution tradition.

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[Admin Moderator]

See

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1612942/posts?page=1070#1070

[NZerFromHK]

Sorry.

[mad_as_he$$]

Sorry don't know where you were but I have been on this since 1986. And I am not a pseudo anything. I loved RR but I will never forgive him for the first amnesty.

[divine_moment_of_facts]

I agree. We can not shoot ourselves in the foot.

I think the people claiming they will not be voting Republican anymore are bluffing. They want to scare the RNC into action, which is not a bad idea, but when push comes to shove they will not let the DNC Nightmare take over.

I will cast my vote for the Republicans who come closest to Demanding the borders be secured.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Spoken truly, you have (ooops) :-)

[WVNan]

Thanks. Pass it on. Maybe we can clean up some of the ranker.

[WVNan]

Thank you. Somehow I don't think it's working though. LOL.

[eleni121]

BTTT

Always and forever Free Republic.

Ever appreciative to you Mr. Robinson.