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GLADYS, 93, IS TOLD: IF YOU WANT A CIGGIE, GET OUT THE HOUSE
this is bristol.com ^ | 24 February 2006 | Tom Hobson

Posted on 02/26/2006 4:41:16 AM PST by SheLion

A WOMAN in a wheelchair must go outside into the cold weather for a cigarette even though she is 93 - because smoking is banned in her nursing home.

Gladys Gornall, known as Chris, of the Norwood Lodge Nursing Home in Nore Road, Portishead, took up smoking 10 years ago after her husband died.

Daughter Joan Mock, 68, says it is the only thing she has left that keeps her happy.

And she says she fears her mother is more likely to die from exposure to cold winter weather than from smoking.

Mrs Mock said: "She's 93, she's in a wheelchair and she has to smoke outside. Last week I had to stand outside with her with an umbrella over her while it rained. We know it's not politically correct any more, but she is old and she will die of hypothermia rather than smoking at this rate."

Mrs Gornall said: "I'm sick and tired of going out there in the cold. I'm fed up with the whole situation. What else have I got to look forward to? I've got no other pleasures."

Mrs Mock said the home used to have a small room where smokers could light up. But she said the smoking ban in the building has now been enforced for health and safety reasons.

She said: "For God's sake, what can she do? There aren't any other smokers in the home now. This is all she has left as her bit of independence. It's so pathetic."

She said relatives of other residents at the home have sympathised with Mrs Gornall's plight.

The only real health problem the pensioner has is osteoarthritis in her knees.

Mrs Mock said: "She says they aren't going to stop her having a fag."

Mrs Gornall moved into the home with her husband, Albert, in 1996 but he died within weeks of their arrival. She took up smoking soon after his death.

Gill Lee, group operations manager for Belmont Care, which owns the home, said the non-smoking policy had been in place since before Mrs Gornall went into the nursing home. She said: "We've had a policy for years in Norwood Lodge of no smoking, mainly on health and safety grounds.

"Mrs Gornall, her daughter and her social worker had a meeting with the matron in May 2005 to explain to her the no-smoking policy in the home, and this was confirmed to her in writing."

She said none of the staff smoke inside the building. But she would not comment on whether the company's policy on enforcing the smoking ban had been tightened.

And she said allowing Mrs Gornall just to smoke in her own room would be "even worse".

She said: "To allow smoking in their room would cause even more health and safety issues."
          


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To: Madame Dufarge; Mears
...implying that the daughter has just "dumped" her mother in a nursing home?

That has really bugged me - it is obvious they didn't read the article........the mother MOVED there with her husband. It sounds more like what we would call an assisted living care facility, rather than a nursing home.

My late MIL chose to move into one.....that's right she chose to do so. Neither my husband nor his sisters "dumped" her there.

81 posted on 02/26/2006 9:55:57 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in you business........SWAT'EM)
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To: lewislynn
Why sould they do anything special just to accommodate her smoking habit?

Maybe because it is her HOME?????????

82 posted on 02/26/2006 9:58:13 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in you business........SWAT'EM)
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To: xrp
"Really, you drug addicts make it seem like the entire world is against you "
 
Lets take this a step at a time, so you will understand (and I will use small words):
 
1-  Yes, I am a drug addict.  I like to smoke.  And the government allows me to.  Why do you feel free to condemn me?
 
2-  The entire world IS against me (you are a perfect case in point)..  Even if I pay for my own health care, and yours, in the highly repressive taxes you have laid on me and my habit, you still feel free to condemn.
 
I don't know you, but I would bet that I could find 3 things I don't like about you.  Would i criticize you?  Not on your life.  I would accept you the way you are.  Would I try to make you live my life style.  Again, not on your life.

83 posted on 02/26/2006 10:09:20 AM PST by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: DouglasKC
I have a novel idea. Why doesn't the daughter let her live with her? Then she can smoke in the daughter's house to her hearts content.

Because the daughter probably has a family and also works.  This way, the old woman has care 24/7 in the nursing home.  It's not always easy for a working family to take in the old folks.

84 posted on 02/26/2006 10:11:06 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: xrp
 On second thought, I do agree completely with you! How SICK is it that this old woman's daughter would put her up in a nursing home! That is TERRIBLE. What kind of daughter is this?

Listen...........

Because the daughter probably has a family and also works.  This way, the old woman has care 24/7 in the nursing home.  It's not always easy for a working family to take in the old folks.

85 posted on 02/26/2006 10:12:46 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: savedbygrace
 So then, Mrs. Mock could simply take mum out of the nursing home and let her live with her, right?

I repeat:

Because the daughter probably has a family and also works.  This way, the old woman has care 24/7 in the nursing home.  It's not always easy for a working family to take in the old folks.

86 posted on 02/26/2006 10:14:10 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

The elderly lady and her so called daughter are pathetic. They care not one bit for the wishes of others.

Daughter Joan: if you are so upset, take her to your house and have her smoke all she wants!


87 posted on 02/26/2006 10:14:32 AM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: ladyjane
Why not let her live with her. She is perfectly healthy except for some arthritis in her knees. More to the point, WHY is she in a nursing home?

Why the government intervenes and 'gives' you care, you know there will be strings attached.

Maybe the old woman fell and broke her hip, therefore, needing round the clock care.

Maybe she has a heart problem requiring round the clock monitoring.  The "if's" are endless when it comes to the elderly.

88 posted on 02/26/2006 10:16:40 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Mears
That's a nice story.

It sure is. Not ALL non-smokers are demons from hell!

89 posted on 02/26/2006 10:17:50 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
How sick is this??!!

I'd say Gladys is rather sick.

And I don't want her bodily fluids/refuse on the floor of the nursing home either ...

90 posted on 02/26/2006 10:18:49 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Lokibob
Lets take this a step at a time, so you will understand (and I will use small words):

Oh boy...nice attempt at a personal insult.

And now to refute your pathetic accusations:

1- Yes, I am a drug addict. I like to smoke. And the government allows me to. Why do you feel free to condemn me?

Please provide evidence where I condemn you [or smokers].

2- The entire world IS against me (you are a perfect case in point).. Even if I pay for my own health care, and yours, in the highly repressive taxes you have laid on me and my habit, you still feel free to condemn.

See refute to #1.

I don't know you, but I would bet that I could find 3 things I don't like about you. Would i criticize you? Not on your life. I would accept you the way you are. Would I try to make you live my life style. Again, not on your life.

That's fine. I could care less if you find 3 or 3,000 things you don't like about me. I'm not trying to tell smokers/drug addicts what kind of lifestyle to have, I'm merely citing the fact that smokers/drug addicts have to accept that there will be certain (increasingly many) establishments that DO NOT ALLOW any smoking. Therefore, back to your respect statement, instead of bitching and moaning about "oh, I can't smoke here", instead have a little respect for the property/business owner and the rules that they have set in place and smoke elsewhere. Is it really that hard?

91 posted on 02/26/2006 10:19:06 AM PST by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: xrp
"FR drug addicts "


Simply put, you sure bought the whole PC mantra hook line and sinker.

I know many smokers, I do not consider ANY of them drug addicts. That is just plain hog wash. They are no more drug addicts than those who drink socially. Which is most of the adult human race.
92 posted on 02/26/2006 10:20:07 AM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: SheLion
Because the daughter probably has a family and also works.

It sounds like a convenient excuse for the daughter and mother to just bitch and whine while the daughter ignores her poor, old mother.

FYI, smoking is not part of health care.

93 posted on 02/26/2006 10:21:05 AM PST by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: Left2Right

Smoking doesn't cause oxygen fires, it's some jerk that got oil somewhere in the oxygen system, that's an instant fire!


94 posted on 02/26/2006 10:21:42 AM PST by dalereed
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To: gidget7
you sure bought the whole PC mantra hook line and sinker.

Nah, it just gets them [smokers] all up in a tizzy.

I'm a big proponent of smoker's rights, but not where smoker's rights override business owner/private property owner rights.

95 posted on 02/26/2006 10:23:24 AM PST by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: Madame Dufarge; republicangel

I'm quite aware of what you're talking about.

I just shake my head Madame Dufarge!!!


96 posted on 02/26/2006 10:26:37 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: xrp

"I'm a big proponent of smoker's rights, but not where smoker's rights override business owner/private property owner rights."



Where do you live that this happens?? Seems to most of us, it's they are either one in the same, or the opposite.


97 posted on 02/26/2006 10:26:42 AM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: battlegearboat

GREATpost battlegearboat ,... and btw , you forgot

... she'd have'tuh , walk[roll] a mile for a Camel , or...

... just get that bellhop to push her,for a Phillip Morris


98 posted on 02/26/2006 10:31:11 AM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: xrp
Really, you drug addicts make it seem like the entire world is against you just so you have an opportunity to complain how repressed you are. In many cases, the FR drug addicts sound a lot like Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan the Jesse Jackson types.

And you ignorant azzholes just don't get it.  And NO! We don't think the world is against us.  We only encounter A-HOLES like YOU when we come in HERE!

99 posted on 02/26/2006 10:32:30 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

she needs to light up in the nursing home and have the nursing home call the cops and have her arrested.Then her daughter needs to make sure al lthe local media is there when the police arrive


100 posted on 02/26/2006 10:33:31 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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