Could French-style riots happen here? Yes, says a hopeful leader of 'Aztlan' separatist movement

WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/8/2005 | WorldNetDaily

[GeorgiaDawg32]

While Many Americans are watching the chaos unfold following 12 nights of mayhem by largely Muslim immigrants in the streets of France, a leader of the separatist Aztlan movement in the U.S. says it's only a matter of time before worse unrest hits the streets of America.

"Can a similar insurrection occur in the USA?" asks Ernesto Cienfuegos of La Voz de Aztlan.

Yes, he concludes.

[Dutch Boy]

I think it depends on the city. Remember the WTO meeting in Seattle. It was a mess. The next meeting in Phili and they banged heads from the get go and nothing much got out of hand. The key is to Bring out the big hammer when it first happens and then bring out the really big hammer just because we can.

As for citizens fighting back, I would say in some areas there would be a fierce response by a heavily armed spontaneous militia. You never know how is packing heat. I've seen old ladies with Glocks and snubbies. On the range I've seen some very tricked out high power, high capacity weapons. I even know guys with black powder cannons.

[Clemenza]

You could fit "Aztlans" constituency inside a phone booth.

As long as second and third generation Mexicans and Central Americans continue to intermarry as they have, and at least make it to lower middle class status, things should be OK.

I'm still more worried about the Muslims than anyone else.

[diamond6]

I wish my husband would let me buy a gun.

I wish I could afford gun. Sigh.

[junta]

Could you fit MS-13's constituency into a phone booth?

[muir_redwoods]

"I could not use firearms to stop someone from torching my car. However, if someone tried to firebomb my house with me in it...well that's what I'd call attempted murder"

So if someone were to set fire to a metal container with 10-15 gallons of gasoline in it that just happened to be sitting in your driveway, you could interpret that as an attempt to firebomb your house.

It wouldn't matter that the metal container had wheels and had been made by Chevrolet, would it?

[jpsb]

You are correct on all points, LaRaca could win a number of early victories, it would take a while for us everyday citizens to get our act together, but we would and then LaRaca would be exterminated. Lots of former combat military here officers and enlisted. I think resistance to a LaRaca revolt would not take too long to get going. Weeks at best, months at worst.

[stevio]

I did an inventory last night. I need more 00 buck shot.

[Clemenza]

MS-13 is a criminal enterprise, like the Mafia. It is not a "revolutionary political movement."

[appalachian_dweller]

>> What happens if you try to shoot them in the legs, but miss and hit their heart or their head. <<

You would be charged with murder.

[OpusatFR]

Yeah, we may not be able to do much, but we have an entire national guard and reserve battle-hardened in street to street and urban fighting...

Interesting training ground.

[GeorgiaDawg32]

I don't think they'd care..it's a reason to get out and do some serious damage..

[Jorge]

I don't think too many Americans will allow people to run down the street burning their cars. We will shoot them.

I lived in Miami during the Liberty City riots. It happens.

There were a few people who had guns and defended their businesses, but most realized they would be held liable if they went out and just shot into crowds because they were destroying property.

They had to wait for the National Guard to take control of the streets.

[Cloud William]

223 reasons. No, 357 reasons! Maybe even 3,006 reasons!

I'm sure others can give lots of "reasons", too.

Yep, "Rule 308" would be envoked.

[photodawg]

Does it bother anybody else that this guy sis admitting his organization is in cahoots with Islamic terrorists?
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Exactly! Freedom of speech does not include advocating the overthrow of the government, or calling for riots and annexing U.S. territory.

[Mack the knife]

"Can a similar insurrection occur in the USA?" asks Ernesto Cienfuegos of La Voz de Aztlan.

Yes, he concludes.

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Actually ... several did. One was called the Watts Riots in Los Angeles; another was called the Rodney King riots.

The rioters burned cars and stores in Watts, then headed towards the neighboring businesses, which were owned by Koreans, who knew something about weapons. They took their EEEEVVVVIIIILLLL assault rifles to the roofs of their buildings, and when anyone with a weapon or a gasoline bomb came within 300 yards or so ... they "discouraged" them. Especially the leaders. It didn't take too many dead bodies on the ground to make the mob decide to go somewhere else.

On a related note:
I hope these Aztlan guys, and the Islamicists, watch the PBS documentary about the War in the Pacific that came on last night. It clearly shows that our fathers and grandfathers were prepared to kill every Japanese man, woman, and child until they unconditionally surrendered, all because they started a war by killing less than 3000 of our sailors and soldiers in Hawaii. We killed more Japanese by dropping incindiary bombs on Tokyo and other large cities than were killed by the A-bombs. The only reason we stopped is because ... we ran out of bombs.

What makes them think that we have changed that much??

[jpsb]

Cool, the lady can shoot, you'd better behave yourself.

[Mike Darancette]

As I have always said, the cure to the problem is for the USA to annex Mexico.

[appalachian_dweller]

Basically, if I feel my life is threatened I can legally use lethal force.

>> It wouldn't matter that the metal container had wheels and had been made by Chevrolet, would it? <<

LOL! That's a pretty good point. A good liar...er...lawyer could probably make that fly.

And hey, maybe I thought the house would be next.

[manwiththehands]

The rebellion that is occurring in France can and will most probably happen here. If it does, it will have grave consequences on the social, political and economic structures of the country and it could possibly topple a government already weakened by the Iraq War and corruption within its ranks.

Wishful thinking by a "jihadist" wannabe. Our government doesn't seem to be willing to "take out the trash", so maybe a good old-fashioned "uprising" will allow our America-loving (and armed) police, National Guard, armed forces and populace to take care of it. Most of us wouldn't stand for a bunch of illegal immigrants and Mooslim malcontents trashing our cities the way they are trashing France.

"Bring it on!"

[Diddle E. Squat]

Totally different. Our immigrants from Latin America get jobs, assimilate, move up the economic ladder, are not redlined into ethnic slums, all of their children learn English, and are culturally similar (Christian or secular.)