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CSI Inserts Itself Into Politics (Criticizes Pro-Life Conservatives)
CBS ^ | 11/3/05 | Pyro7480

Posted on 11/03/2005 7:19:52 PM PST by Pyro7480

Tonight, on CSI: Las Vegas, the main plot line involved a single mother whose apparent suicide was staged. The mother was a virgin (determined by the autopsy), and was described as a "prude" by the victim's sister. After a DNA test, it was determined the baby found with the dead woman wasn't biologically-related to the mother. After further investigation, it was found out that the mother had adopted an embryo "left over" from a fertility clinic. A fictional pro-life organization called "Project Sunflower" had found the embryo a mother. As one woman CSI investigator told the details of this organization to the other woman CSI investigator, her boss, the look on her face was one of disgust. When the underling investigator stated that the organization believed it was doing God's work, the lead investigator (whose character is an ex-stripper) said, "I've known strippers who've said the same thing."

The two women CSI investigators went to the headquarters of this pro-life organization. The investigators questioned the organization’s director, a blonde, middle-aged white woman with a Southern accent. In the course of the conversation, the lead investigator, in a hostile fashion, brought up the subject of the supposedly previous position of Christianity that Christians, including a Catholic pope apparently, had taught that the soul of an unborn child didn't enter its body until the mother felt the baby moving. This line of questioning did obviously not please the director of the pro-life organization. When the lead investigator asked for records, the director said they were confidential. The investigator countered that they could go get a court order, and the director said to go ahead and get one.

Later in the program, the lead woman investigator's boss, the head of the CSI night shift (and as the first season of the show indicated, a lapsed Catholic), confronted her, saying that the head of the pro-life organization had filed a complaint against the investigator, accusing the investigator of verbal harassment. The investigator explained herself to her boss, saying that in the course of her questioning, her viewpoint had slipped out. When her boss asked of this viewpoint, she flat out said that she was pro-choice and pro-stem cell research. She asked her boss what he would have done. He said that if he would have been in her position, he would have cited Leviticus 17:11, which supposedly indicates that according to the Bible, the soul doesn't enter the body until after conception (The verse says "Because the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you, that you may make atonement with it upon the altar for your souls, and the blood may be for an expiation of the soul." In it is proper context, it's about the Temple sacrifice.)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abortion; csi; lasvegas; politics; prolife
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I'm sick of Hollywood inserting its political views into TV show and movies. I don't watch much broadcast television, and up until this point, CSI and its spin-off CSI: NY were my two favorite primetime shows. Why do the writers and producers feel the need to attack the faith of millions of Americans just because they disagree with them?

I've put up with the shows portrayals of deviant sexual behavior. I didn't mind the violence, since it was in the context of an intelligent and scientific investigation, even if the timeline of the investigation is paced more quickly than would happen in real life. But I refuse to look over an intance where they freely choose to attack my faith. I don't know if I'm going to watch that show anymore.

1 posted on 11/03/2005 7:19:52 PM PST by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 11/03/2005 7:24:13 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480

*sigh* Yeah, I saw this too. Do these Hollywood types really think they're being persuasive by setting up dummies to play their opposition? It just gets so old.


3 posted on 11/03/2005 7:24:41 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Pyro7480

More disturbing is their use of little flashlights. Why do they need them outside and why can't they turn on a light switch when entering a darkened room?


4 posted on 11/03/2005 7:27:16 PM PST by durasell
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To: Coleus; cpforlife.org

Pro-life ping!


5 posted on 11/03/2005 7:28:08 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480

I noticed a couple of months ago that CSI was taking quick cheap shots at Conservatives and Christians.


6 posted on 11/03/2005 7:28:18 PM PST by CAWats (Change is inevitable except from vending machines.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal; Pyro7480
*sigh* Yeah, I saw this too. Do these Hollywood types really think they're being persuasive by setting up dummies to play their opposition? It just gets so old.

Then they can't understand how Republicans beat them routinely.

7 posted on 11/03/2005 7:28:30 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Pyro7480

I too watch the episode. I found Grissom's comment regarding Leviticus somewhat troubling because it presents a 'sound byte' response to a deep and abiding question, namely 'when does the spirit take up residence with the soul' (the implication being that the flesh is the home of the soul, without addressing the spirit of the human soul), but of course the character's comment blurred the biblical distinction between soul and spirit, a distinction not too many Christians can address either!


8 posted on 11/03/2005 7:28:40 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Pyro7480

BTW, the writers of the SVU program have been using discussion from this site for ideas in scripts longer than the CSI writers have been typing episodes. One of my story lines was adapted to an episode of SVU.


9 posted on 11/03/2005 7:30:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Pyro7480
"I'm sick of Hollywood inserting its political views into TV show and movies."

They can't help it. They are liberals and they know best.
10 posted on 11/03/2005 7:31:32 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

In their minds, if you don't agree with them it is because you are stupid and/or ignorant and/or a hate-filled Christian (the only kind they can conceive of).


11 posted on 11/03/2005 7:31:42 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Pyro7480; cyborg; fortunecookie

What should anyone expect from SeeBS?




Tune in to crap, get crap. It's simple really.


12 posted on 11/03/2005 7:32:24 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: durasell
More disturbing is their use of little flashlights. Why do they need them outside and why can't they turn on a light switch when entering a darkened room?

Always puzzled me too. I found it on Sodnagel's List of TV Crime Show Cliches as rule number 5a.

13 posted on 11/03/2005 7:35:26 PM PST by Erasmus (Getting captivated by modern music leads to Stockhausen Syndrome.)
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To: Pyro7480

Its not too surprising. If you listen to them talk about gun ownership, they make it sound as though registration is a legal requirement. A lefty's fondest wet dream.


14 posted on 11/03/2005 7:36:26 PM PST by Nachoman
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To: Pyro7480
I believe that their real purpose is to brain wash the younger viewers. Soon they will be voting with liberal ideals implanted by Hollywood. A long term plan to shift the political landscape. In my opinion, their plan will work.
15 posted on 11/03/2005 7:37:07 PM PST by cmet
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To: Erasmus

However, they do get points for attractiveness.


16 posted on 11/03/2005 7:39:28 PM PST by durasell
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To: Pyro7480
Just saw this and changed the channel.

Again, I believe this qualifies as an illegal campaign contribution to the Democratic Party.

17 posted on 11/03/2005 7:40:24 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Pyro7480

I DVR'd it. Guess I will just erase it!


18 posted on 11/03/2005 7:41:40 PM PST by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights!)
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To: Pyro7480

Nobody is watching network TV. I don't know anybody who watches or pays any attention to what the three dinosaurs do. Of course it may be me-I am somewhat intelligent, and travel in informed circles..


19 posted on 11/03/2005 7:41:49 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: mrmargaritaville

I don't have cable TV. So when I watch TV, it's usually the networks.


20 posted on 11/03/2005 7:42:38 PM PST by durasell
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